Nothing to do with positions. Older guy said to me last night we play the "Yorkshire Way"i.e Too much up the middle. Like Wigan we don't seem to have a Plan B.

thats a laugh..baldy bentham gave wire 3 penalties in 2 minutes in our 20 metre area leading to hughe's try..then the fiasco for your last try that was dissalowed baldy gave it as a try till the video ref saw he was in touch!

i cant recall wigan putting 50 on us two weeks ago at their place..in fact i think we beat em 23---4 didnt we?...what an embarassing post this is to the rest of the genuine wire supporters..biggest bunch of sour grapes post ive read!

If that's the case I don't see any point in why we have kept him around, season is over by time he is fit on that basis and he as said he will be going home only wanting one season over here.

It is called "evening up the penalty count". It has been done plenty of times in games.



So you expect Bentham to say no try? He made a live decision based on what he saw; if anybody should have said something it was the touch judge Mike Woodhead, he was the closest official to the incident. If Bentham saw that Evan's foot was in touch, he must have the greatest vision in the world.

However going off his performance last night, he most definitely does not......

Just adding my two penneth!!

I honestly didn't see too much wrong with the game last night, a couple of blades of grass stopped Evans scoring in the last few minutes and had Hilly managed to stretch out a bit further within the first ten mins then his try would have been awarded. I cant remember who, but there was a kick in goal in the first half that bounced around, landed in one of our players hands but was the spilled.......had he held onto it it was another try. We made good ground and had most of the possession and territory against a fresh, in form, saints side. Not bad given our last game was 5 days earlier and theirs was 13 days earlier.

Yes we spilled balls, and the running was off but we could still have won. I'm also not having this Saints are crap thats being spouted around, they are a form team at the mo who scraped a win against a Warrington side who has barely had chance to breathe since their last game.......

Says more about Saints than us I reckon.

Our problems this season, summed up in one soundbite.

We just seem (at times) like that unfunny Catherine Tate character......am I bothered?
When we look interested, we're comfortably the best team in the league. Such a pity seem to have the attention span of a schoolkid in his 3Rd detention of the week.

At last somebody is talking sense. I just can't believe some of the earlier posts calling for T'S to be sacked etc. I can only assume these individuals are perfect and expect the same standards from all lesser beings.

I'd have no issue with a new coach.

And who's available should the situation arise? I don't feel there is currently anyone better than we already have nor would there be anyone better.

Unless you would want to promote from within.

Id have John Kear and Paul Cullen assistant.
Jk for his honesty, passion and balance. PC for his attention to detail and technicalities and love.

Surely agar will replace smith when the time comes. He's been groomed for it and is clearly a huge influence on your current performances

Perhaps you'd like to try again then.

You claim that the Wigan side (that Saints beat 21 - 4) would have put 50 on them......

Even Shaun Wane only claimed a 30 point difference if Ben Flower had lasted the Grand Final