Gaz it does work, see what we did leading up to the magic weekend and just after, but then TS moved Bridge out wide again and brought Myler back in and things started to go sour.

Bump, out of the CC when previously in the early rounds and the league we blitz through with excellent form at 6&7.

The evidence was there in black and white it worked and yet TS tried to fix it??? doh.

Irrespective of who we chose at 6 & 7 today or who we do in the future, the Catalans half-backs gave their team a massive advantage over us by virtue of a ruthless and punishing kicking game. In my view, Catalans have the best half-back combination of any team in the competion, but most teams have at least one half-back or hooker capable of turning the wingers and FB round, and building pressure. We appear to have none.

Penny aside, we don't have a player capable of going full length, so when we are constantly being turned around like that we're in a hole and susceptible to giving posession, territory and points away because of our poor ball security and style of play.

Just watched the game, Joel Monaghan and Micky Higham have been woeful so far this season and Gary Wheeler was shocking.
I think Brad Dwyer would add more than Higham. Anthony England is a bigger loss than given credit for and Asotasi made zero impact again.
Joe Philbin played really well and could keep his spot but Laithwaite & Currie have to improve.
I'd start Ben Harrison next game as well.

We simply haven't and will find it very difficult to replace Brett Hodgson. He Gave Briers and the team so much in support direction and attacking options.

We have lost that plus offloading props in Carvell and Wood, throw in the loss of another organiser in mick monas and it doesn't take a genius to fathom out why we are lacking in attack.

Putting this at myler and obriens door is a bit short sighted in my opinion.

Lee Briers would have made no difference to that game yesterday he would most likely have feigned a limp at some time in the second half.

I agree it's frustrating and half of me can't wait for a 33 year old cooper cronk to come and play for us then the other half thinks we persevered with briers for so long what right do we have to cast off Obrien at such an early stage of his career.

And let's be honest it can't get worse than yesterday can it. So I think I'm a bit more chipper about things this morning.

The flying biscuit, once again the voice of reason and decency.

Partly the reason Briers was a good as he was in the later stages of his career is because he was playing consistently and trusted even when his form was below par and his attitude not quite right, casting GOB off I think is a massive mistake, he has flashes of brilliance, as time goes by given the opportunity to shine I think he could.

and partly because Briers had too, he was out the door when he was offered that olive branch by TS.

I'm pretty sure Briers would have made a difference! Whether that would have been enough to make a difference to the result is extremely unlikely.

im with rubber duckie on this one bridge and ratchford at hb..the sooner the better

The last two dragons teams we have played have taught us a lesson in winning games on the back of good kicking games.

Ratchford and Bridge can't kick unless they are kicking it off a cone.

I just cant see where we are going to get a kicking game from... either someone comes in from the under 19s (Patton).. or we go out and find someone.

without a decent open field kicker we have no field position.. We are going to see this side on the backfoot a hell of a lot over the coming season i think.

you stupid boy!

This might sound a bit radical but we have a management system in place which is supposed to iron out anything that is going wrong. The team has limped along since the beginning of last season without a positional field kicker so why haven't our stopgap kickers learned to improve their kicking games in all that time ? Do they practice field kicking with input from the coaches? Why do we not have variations on our so called game plans ,when we see so called lesser teams do a fine job on our defence? The team, from players right through to management, seem to be going backwards with each season.

For this to be actioned you need quality players and quality coaching and management staff, have we got both or either?

No, I doubt they ever practise. They just slob around at training, chatting to their mates.

No, we have none of them. No props as good as any in Super League. No reigning Man of Steel. No top try scorer from Super League last year. No successful coach who has won GFs, CCs and LLSs. No recently retired players on the coaching staff who everybody says we miss. None of those in place.