we need to get this out of the way. not once have we ever called ourself "ultras" and would never want to be referred to as ultras, we just go to watch warrington in every game and support the team. if we were older youd just call us the "barmy army", as for the singing insulting songs but im sorry every brand of fans has sung insulting songs about teams for years and if your really going to complain about singing "castlefords a sh***ole i wanna go home" then you need to man up and also realise that for example last season at wigan i have clear memories at pretty much 2000 fans singing that. plus the old songs that dont get sung anymore like that you look in the dustbin for something to eat...... its all harmless banter and people used to be able to take it on the chin until a few people started crying about it on here.

Woah woah woah... since when am i one of them? I know the people you are talking about, they stand in the same sort of area at the HJ, i don't know who any of them are but if they get a song going I'll more than likely join in. unless its a hate song against other teams and such. I don't agree with that its not needed (unless the team is the ref )

Nor am I a teenager, I am an adult. I'm just not highly strung and find the darts song funny. I don't really see anything wrong with that. Instead of telling us to grow up why don't the people on here stop moaning, cheer up and just go with it. You never know, you might just have fun. Not too much fun mind.. Lets not get too giddy

Rawzy is completely right by the way

Your posts on the other thread about the flare though... completely wrong I'm afraid

explain? i dont see how i have condoned it at all i just dont like the fact that all people around him are being branded as "disgraces to the club" as i saw on twitter when we actually havent done anything wrong.

Shop them or you're just as bad.

Spot on rawly!

This.

What was that film in the late eighties with Jodie Foster in? Some on here need to watch it.

You haven't done anything right though Rawzy, have you heard of guilty by association?

If you say nothing, you're saying the behaviour is ok.

there was more than just our group in the end so what your saying is also saying that the people who joined in with our group even families who "havent done anything right" are in the wrong.

The Accused that was the film, thanks for jogging my memory. Based on a true story, and the men who stood by and let it happen had a long time to ponder if doing nothing was the right thing in jail.

If a bloke and his mate go out, one drags a woman down an alley and assaults her while his mate stands next to him and does nothing, is that ok, he's done nothing wrong, right?

Yes, if they knowingly allow an offense to occur, or fail to report one after it has been committed, then yes they are as guilty as the person that committed it.

It would appear to me that you knew before and after the event who this individual is and that he was going to set one off today. You are lucky that nothing serious happened because in all of Warrington’s eyes and more importantly the polices’ you would have been equally culpable.