not at all you lot see nothing wrong with your team picking up players and holding them horizontal and slamming them on their backs, fair play its just about legal I suppose and this is what happened to Westwood.

Normally he would have taken them all day. What he wasnt having was some Rat faced crying bitch putting his head and elbows into his face in a "look at me I'm Rat boy and i've just smashed you" manner...

in short if you cant push the boundaries of the rules in a game you'll be ing in the wind all season

He was at home cuddling his Sam Tomkins doll

Only one fullback had a good game on friday and he wasn't in cherry and white. We're certainly not scared of rat boy.

i would`nt..so he would replace hodgson.no chance,replace briers or myler again no chance...might make a half decent water carrier

If there was a spear tackle by wigan in that game, by all means ban the offenders for a long time, but as far as I sawthere was nothing remotely like a spear.

Again, If you really think that wire have never slammed a player into the floor hard then you are deluded. Or do you softly place them on the floor?

Without re watching the game I remember a number of 'facials' dished out by wire players - but I suppose because thjey weren't done by an annoying player then they are ok?

The main feeling I get from this thread is that because you think a player is like 'ratboy' then it's ok to punch him.....

again, another one who hasn't rewatched the game without their cherry and white tinted specs on, just watch it again.

What exactly am I supposed to be looking for?

From what i can make out it seems to be;

A) Wigan players not actually doing anything wrong but 'pushing boundaries' which actually sounds like a good thing.

B) looking like ratboy?

While on the other hand warrington it seems were playing a game if tic rugby.

I'm not sure why you are all getting youselves worked up into a frenzy - or is it your pack mentality?

lets not forget it was your fans moaning about the rough nature of the exchange between westwood and sam. the same fans who have been asking all week for more protection for sam. so do me a favour....

best pack in the league mentality. Tell you whats been good bout beating the other top teams. Every week you seem to get 1 particular fan who's took it worse than the others and goes on all forums repeating the same teary rants.

Ah ok, I see your position now. It's wrong when a Wigan player commits an offence and they should be punished, but it's acceptable when a Warrington player commits an offence and it's something you positively condone. Gotcha.

That's just a reiteration of your earlier point isn't it? Retalisation should not be punished by the RFL.

If Tomkins was using foul play then he should be penalised, just like any player. I'm not the type of fan to say foul play should be condoned just because it's one of our players (hint hint). He was obviously penalised for holding Westwood down, but then Westwood committed a foul of his own-- a more serious one at that. Even if the original penalty stayed with Warrington, Westwood should have been warned or binned. The point remains that retaliating to being held down--or any other sort of winding up, foul or not--with a punch should not go unpunished.

Seriously, if you were a fan of my team going on about how foul play is ok when committed by our players I'd be embarrassed.

And this is what's great about Wigan now. Under madge with his ' push the boundaries of the rules ' someone is always going to push them too far.

For a considerable time now that's been Sam Tomkins. if Tomkins should be vexed with anyone its not Westwood, its Super coach Maguire, for encouraging his house tactics sticking him at full back and in general not treating the kid right.

You can't tell me His on field niggle his high emotions (crying after a losss) and his all round body language looks good ,and is helping his game?

The sooner he is coached by a coach like Tony Smith for example the better.

In all honesty I felt sorry for the lad at one stage last night. (Only at one stage mind most of the time i was laughing uncontrollably)