Dave T....So do you reckon he is just whispering sweet nothings to the guy???...

The fact is he was set, well balanced and still did it. It was IMO on purpose. He wasnt wrong footed, stepped etc...




Although you are correct in saying that we dont know what was said you are being extreemly charitable in what you think he was doing. IMO he looked aggressive when he leant over at first.

Quote: saintc "why he jumped up and swung at his head. It wasnt mis-timed it was on purpose. After this he did rant at the guy on the ground. I really dont know how you can defend him TBH.'" www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... ss_Wolves/ and the westwood article (fight fire with fire) www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... with_fire/ Would suggest that the aim was to rough the big pack up, however was poorly executed and these things need to be dealt soon as possible.

Quote: saintc "why he jumped up and swung at his head. It wasnt mis-timed it was on purpose. After this he did rant at the guy on the ground. I really dont know how you can defend him TBH.'" www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... ss_Wolves/ and the westwood article (fight fire with fire) www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... with_fire/ Would suggest that the aim was to rough the big pack up, however was poorly executed and these things need to be dealt soon as possible.

No, I'm not saying we don't know what was said. I'm saying we don't know that he said anything, as the shot was of the top of Westwood's head. People are just assuming he was sledging him.

The reason I am questioning this is due to the fact he didn't give the facial when it originally looks like he is going to. That makes me suspect that he realises the player is unconscious.

Also, when the pushing & shoving starts, he doesn't do much. When Westwoods pumped, he'll go after anyone. I think he knows from the point of impact it's a bad one. On top of that, the TV footage of the blokes head hitting the floor, I can only imagine the thud it will have made, I think Westwood knows it's a real bad tackle, bends over the top of him (all you can see on TV is his mop, no sound, nor can you see any face to 'lip read') and is about to draw attention to the injury, ie, players are applauded for their quick thinking in calling help etc. As he bends over, he's pushed & shoved by angry Catalans players, with justification.

You'll not hear me say In my opinion, the tackle is anything less than a four match ban, but I'll stick up for Ben in that I think people are jumping on the bandwaggon a tad with this growling, 'lack of remorse' thing. There's not one angle shows him giving him a verbal, so it's pure speculation. If it was somebody else, we'd get 'He's not that type of player'.

5-6 game ban, big fine and a apology to Carlaw. Total sh*thouse cheap shot, wouldn't bother me if he didn't play for us again, i don't mind people playing the game hard but what Westwood did was just thuggery.

It was a high tackle, calm down.

Those people who think this was intentional, do you also think it was intentional when he went for a big hit on Fozzard and ended up bashing his face and knocking himself out?

These things happen, it is a fast, tough game.

He will get a ban, and he should get back in the team. We want players to try 100%, well in Westwood that is exactly what you get, but from time to time, things go wrong.

Yes well done let us pursue a witch-hunt against a player who has been our most consistent performer for years and has simply made a mistake.

There is much worse going on in games all the time.

Well said Mark....not condoning what Benny did, but good grief talk about going OTT..

Im not condoning Bennys tackle but if your gonna have a go at Bennys for his tackle you should have a go at Mogg for his

Thank god some of us talk sense.

For what its worth, I'd have westwood at saints in a heartbeat. A player very underrated by a lot of people imo.

I hope he gets let off with a warning about his tackling technique as he's in my Fantasy Team.

Just to be clear no-one accused him of spitting - someone commented on him 'gobbing off' and it was misconstrued by others.

No they didn't. He might have meant that but he didn't say that.

Absolute disgrace 20 years too late if he had thrown a stiff arm like that 20 years ago nothing would be said but the game has been cleaned up to get rid of the tackles like that, blatant attack to the head hope he gets sign die or at least 6 months