Has he done well? He's muddled along from what I can see.

I agree on face value that he might have kicked on but "muddled along" is a bit stingy. However, he's a regular starter and perhaps if he does go to Huddersfield Watson presumably thinks he can get a tune out of him as he has the talent

KR fans really wanted to sign him permanently, Salford fans are ticked off he's leaving. He's highly rated by those two teams.

Will be interesting to see how he goes next year in what should be a pretty good side.

He's obviously never going to be world-class but I think he's good enough for us and we should have kept him.

Livett didn`t fit in with Price`s masterplan of 5 drives and then an high kick to the corner.

If that didn`t work, then Plan B was 5 drives and then a kick to the corner.

Livett had too much flair, and as such was regarded as a maverick risk taker, by Price.

Anyone who kicked on tackle four or made a cut out pass was considered a maverick risk-taker under Price

I think Livett should have held up his hand and admitted he wasn’t fit for the CC final. Ahead of his injury, he was in the best form of his life.
I’d have him back at wire in a heartbeat, can’t think of another better player to have come off your bench.

I think a lot of the younger players get to this stage where they have to make a jump up. We don't really know if Powell is saying Longstaff is 'not listening' or needs to develop his game further, either way he will need to kick on if he is to cement a regular place under Powell - so I don't suppose it matters. At least he is still pretty young and is not under real pressure to deliver in contrast to quite a few of the senior players who will undoubtedly be on their way by the end of the year.

Who would be a professional RL player ?

The truth is most of us on here would love to have had the skill, application and opportunity….to get battered every week and get slagged off on fan’s forums if our form ever dropped below 100%. To this day i find myself walking down Lord St imagining me putting a little dink over an oncoming pedestrian (a la K Shelford) before rounding them to plonk the ball under the sticks (traffic lights).

this must be a different harvey livett to the one i watched playing first team

Can't see the value of discussing a young player in public. Good coaches should encourage young players and Powell hardly did that. Always rated Livett but as a centre.

This is a common pattern with our young players but I also wonder how much of it is people overrating them from a small sample size of games early on.
The more first team appearances a player has the more they reveal how good/bad they really are. With Livett, the more games he played the more the ratio of good games to anonymous games seemed to worsen. We had the same pattern with Kevin Penny, Rhys Evans and Dec Patton. These guys all had their own fans making excuses for them and blaming other people but they stopped producing good performances for us and in the end time runs out.

I think Livett is better than those other three and will be able to have a decent career as a middling SL level player. He's better than what we have now and could be a starter in our team. But I don't think he's starting quality for a team who wants to compete for GFs.

Fair points. I think with young players fans have a tendency to focus on the good games and ignore the bad at the start, thinking that the bad games will stop happening over time.

I think with Livett though we didn't give him enough time. He was poor in the CC Final (also got injured in the game before) but was only 21 at the time and only played for us 15 times after that, and a lot of those were from the bench.

Sometime after Longstaff breaks into the team on a regular basis, he will end up going through a bad patch. I feel you should stick with players for a time to see if they come through it. Dec Patton, for example, never did but at least we knew for sure he wasn't good enough.

Penny, Evans, and Patton all played over twice as many games for Warrington as Livett did.