Has anyone noticed how they do it in the NRL? If the ref gives a try, the bunker has a quick look whilst they are celebrating the try, and lining up the conversion. If the bunker see anything that might rule the try out, the ref is informed asap, and the ref then holds up any procedures so the bunker can take a closer look. I haven't a clue why we don't use that here. I would also like to add that i really like the captains challenge but we can't use it here because every SL game isn't shown on TV.

I said on Twitter I'd have been raging if that was Saints losing to that call. But, it's a very difficult one to find a system for. The benefit of the doubt to the attacking team mantra comes into it, you can always flip your argument and say they can't prove he hasn't scored either. It's entirely possible the ball squirms off the hand under it or that he forces one end of it into contact with the grass. We'll likely never know and if it was disallowed, rather than being on this board, it'd be on Hull's with them saying the opposite.

Interesting tactics from Wire today I thought. Ultra quick play the balls, so many scoots or quick darts at the line and throwing it around like it's the last 5 minutes of the game all game. It looks very lively and threatening and is similar to how you used to play against Saints. It'll bring a lot of line breaks and I guess is playing to your strengths as it avoids the forwards. It's a flawed system though as playing at that intensity will bring about a lot of errors. Your outcome in a lot of games will likely be determined by how many balls you drop and you'll defeat yourselves at times.

None of that would help here though. At the end of the day they've either got to decide benefit of the doubt to the attack or defense as they can't see where the ball ultimately ends up.

Fair enough mate but, i am eluding to the concept of it, and it would ultimately be beneficial to the game in the long run.

Sadly the sad one is right and thats a sad state of affairs sadly.

Thats going to overshadow all the other poor calls we were victim to tonight. That truly was one of the worst refereeing displays I've ever seen. He should be stood down he is that bad. Him and Liam Moore are abysmal.

Bottom line is, Kendall or the liners would not of seen the grounding of that ball. So how can you send it up as a try? Surely you would send it up as No Try and if theres evidence to give it, then fair enough.....

Simple..get rid of this refs try or no try...just hand it upstairs like in the days when it 1st came out and see what he makes of it...

I used to take the mick out of rugby union when they gave a try under a load of bodies and you can't see the ball touch the grass. I'm ashamed to say our sport is now as bad.

Bang on mate.

That's true on 50/50 calls but this wasn't one of them.

If the ref doesn't know, he should be able to say as much to the video ref. The video ref should then give determine the most likely outcome.

In this instance, it was crystal clear that the most likely result was that the ball wasn't grounded.

Spot on mate, what about prior to the try/no try debate it would have been academic if Kendall had awarded a pen when that Fash who shouldn't have been playing if those poor sods at the review panel hadn't needed an Easter break stripped the ball, quite easily seen as well by all, I don't have the sound on, on Sky so I'm not sure how he could give Wire a scrum instead of a Penalty.

I know I'm playing at Devil's advocate but why don't they copy what Union do?Ask the question,Try,yes or no?,that try would never have been given.