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| Will be glad to see the back of him. The brains of a rocking horse.
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| I do like Lineham, he is capable of scoring some great tries. And I think he’s been a little hard done to in this instance, three matches for a little shove seems a lot.
But if it is as many as 21 matches, there’s really no excuse. That’s not all review panels being hard on him.
The thing is, I don’t think he’s stupid. Listen to his post match interviews. He can clearly think for himself, he can be funny and doesn’t trot out the poundland media training clichés that every team seems to rely on.
Bit of an oddball.
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| Curate’s egg of a player. I like him, but last seasons incident followed so closely by this means he is a liability so it’s a no from me.
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| Which means currently of our 2 1st choice wingers, 1 is missing and the other is unrecognisable as the player of old. Youth may be given its chance!
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| Lineham did improve when Price took over, and for a stretch he was a pretty good player. But now he's one of our uncomfortably large group of players that are standing still or sliding backwards and he misses a lot of games.
He has had a decent try scoring record through his career but he's been up and down, had injury problems, suspensions, questionable decision maker sometimes, and we did pay a lot of money for him. At his age now you know what you are getting with him, he's not an upcoming player with potential if he can iron a few things out.
He's one of those players that people on here list when they are trying to make arguments that our squad is just as good as Wigan/Saints we just need a better coach. When he leaves us, I bet he won't get picked up by Wigan or Saints.
When Powell takes over it will be revealing to see which players he moves on and what clubs they sign for: it will answer a few things about the quality of Price's squad.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Ashton is not a winger, I repeat, not a winger!'"
He’s also not the best fullback in the squad, can’t play anywhere else other than wing and offers nothing from the bench. If I were him, I’d take my chances on the wing.
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"He’s also not the best fullback in the squad, can’t play anywhere else other than wing and offers nothing from the bench. If I were him, I’d take my chances on the wing.'"
But he’s a genuine game breaker and our fastest player. You play him fullback with Ratchford at lock.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"But he’s a genuine game breaker and our fastest player. You play him fullback with Ratchford at lock.'"
Whether he ends up at FB or not, Linehams's stupidity opens the door for Ashton. Being on the wing needn't dampen Ashton's attacking impact in the same way it didn't lesson Jason Robinson's, for example, another player who didn't start his career at winger and probably wouldn't have felt it suited him.
Of course having a coach who doesn't use his wingers as extra props would help.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Ashton is not a winger, I repeat, not a winger!'"
He is though, he plays wing or Fullback.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"But he’s a genuine game breaker and our fastest player. You play him fullback with Ratchford at lock.'"
I understand this notion of Ratchford as a loose forward, but it would sanitise an already unconvincing pack in order to make space for a fast player and expect him to create out of nowhere.
Ratchford is the best fullback in the squad, Inglis aside as we are yet to see what he can deliver. Organisationally he out ranks Ashton, he is VASTLY more creative in the third pivot role and has enough of a running threat to create and exploit gaps himself.
Ashton, at this stage, is raw speed. And that is good. But raw speed running at a flat, unbroken defensive line gets tackled pretty easily. We can’t squeeze out a pack member for another pivot and expect to make ground, break tackles and win quick play the balls. Cooper and Hill are under enough pressure for that as it is.
If Ashton is a fullback, and only a fullback, he better wait in line. But he is at best second choice. If I was him, I’d be banging on the coaches door forcing his hand to pick me on that wing and getting the chance to prove what I can do for 80 minutes.
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"I understand this notion of Ratchford as a loose forward, but it would sanitise an already unconvincing pack in order to make space for a fast player and expect him to create out of nowhere.
Ratchford is the best fullback in the squad, Inglis aside as we are yet to see what he can deliver. Organisationally he out ranks Ashton, he is VASTLY more creative in the third pivot role and has enough of a running threat to create and exploit gaps himself.
Ashton, at this stage, is raw speed. And that is good. But raw speed running at a flat, unbroken defensive line gets tackled pretty easily. We can’t squeeze out a pack member for another pivot and expect to make ground, break tackles and win quick play the balls. Cooper and Hill are under enough pressure for that as it is.
If Ashton is a fullback, and only a fullback, he better wait in line. But he is at best second choice. If I was him, I’d be banging on the coaches door forcing his hand to pick me on that wing and getting the chance to prove what I can do for 80 minutes.'"
Absolutely on the money.
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"I understand this notion of Ratchford as a loose forward, but it would sanitise an already unconvincing pack in order to make space for a fast player and expect him to create out of nowhere.
Ratchford is the best fullback in the squad, Inglis aside as we are yet to see what he can deliver. Organisationally he out ranks Ashton, he is VASTLY more creative in the third pivot role and has enough of a running threat to create and exploit gaps himself.
Ashton, at this stage, is raw speed. And that is good. But raw speed running at a flat, unbroken defensive line gets tackled pretty easily. We can’t squeeze out a pack member for another pivot and expect to make ground, break tackles and win quick play the balls. Cooper and Hill are under enough pressure for that as it is.
If Ashton is a fullback, and only a fullback, he better wait in line. But he is at best second choice. If I was him, I’d be banging on the coaches door forcing his hand to pick me on that wing and getting the chance to prove what I can do for 80 minutes.'"
It all comes down to what you think the job of a fullback is? Is it to be strong defensively? Be good positionally? Good under the high ball?
Or is to become a third halfback? To arrive in the line at pace at that precise moment in time to play that final killer pass that players such as James Tedesco and Latrell Mitchell are maestros at. It’s such an advantage in the modern game having this weapon.
I think you’re slightly overrating Ratchford especially as the third pivot. He’s decent in that department but he’s certainly no Brett Hodgson.
I think in Ashton, whilst yes he is nowhere near the finished article and will make mistakes defensively, I think his potential and his ability as an attacking weapon is tremendous. His try last year against Castleford where Currie set him up was superb. His ability to return the ball at pace and break the line outweighs Ratchford as does his ability to support players when we make a break ala Ryan Papenhuyzen at Storm. I rate Ratchford but I think Ashton gives us so much more in an attacking sense.
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