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| From what I've heard, should the variants be unaffected by the current vaccinations, then they'll be dealt with in the second shot. Hope were heading in the right direction, fingers crossed.
Also, and again from what I've heard, it's the Oxford vaccine that affects some people with flu like symptoms, and a lack of energy.
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| Yes I had the Pfizer vaccine and I never had any flu like symptoms so perhaps we do get different side effects with different vaccines.
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| Quote fez1="fez1"Just a thought - and I'm not likely to get a jab for some time - it would make sense to me that if there are restrictions on the number of fans attending a match then the stating point could be season ticket holders who have had the jabs followed by others that have had the jabs.
I know it's not going to be popular with some but honestly it makes total sense to me.
Clearly it would tend to be an older age group who would be able to attend, but if that's what it takes to get species safely at the HJ then I'm all in favour of it.
The alternative could be Covid infections followed by yet another period of empty stadiums.'"
Older/vulnerable speccies will have spent the last year living in fear of the virus so if they are prioritised for tickets post-vaccination when the return to limited crowds comes back its fine by me.
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| If they have games with vaccinated only, ie the oldies, how do you think the matchday experience will change?
Longer queues for the toilets, packets of Werthers at the kiosks. Val Doonican tribute act pre game. Speaker volume turned up a little. Stairlifts to get them to the back of the stands. Pitchside adverts tailored to suit eg wills, prepaid funeral schemes, equity release. Half time entertainment to show pictures of their Grandkids on the big screens.
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| Val Doonican my a**e , get the proper 60s music on ....Stones ,Hollies ,Kinks ,Bob Dylan Manfred Mann ,the Who ,Anita Harris .......
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| Quote TF and the wire="TF and the wire"If they have games with vaccinated only, ie the oldies, how do you think the matchday experience will change?
Longer queues for the toilets, packets of Werthers at the kiosks. Val Doonican tribute act pre game. Speaker volume turned up a little. Stairlifts to get them to the back of the stands. Pitchside adverts tailored to suit eg wills, prepaid funeral schemes, equity release. Half time entertainment to show pictures of their Grandkids on the big screens.'"
I'm all for the match day announcements being made by Jack Jarvis and Victor McDade.
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| Quote MorePlaymakersNeeded="MorePlaymakersNeeded"I'm all for the match day announcements being made by Jack Jarvis and Victor McDade.'"
That's plenty! 
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I don't think it's legally possible to require people to show evidence of vaccination to enter a public place. Look at the difficulties the police and staff have requiring people to mask up in supermarkets:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... permarkets
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -new-rules
That would have to be put on the statute book with a parliamentary vote, and then there are the logistics of actually checking it (an easily forged bit of paper).
Far easier, from a legal perspective, to limit attendance to a third of capacity and sell only a third of seats (with distance between spectators).
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I don't think it's legally possible to require people to show evidence of vaccination to enter a public place. Look at the difficulties the police and staff have requiring people to mask up in supermarkets:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... permarkets
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -new-rules
That would have to be put on the statute book with a parliamentary vote, and then there are the logistics of actually checking it (an easily forged bit of paper).
Far easier, from a legal perspective, to limit attendance to a third of capacity and sell only a third of seats (with distance between spectators).
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Quote davids="davids"I don't think it's legally possible to require people to show evidence of vaccination to enter a public place. Look at the difficulties the police and staff have requiring people to mask up in supermarkets:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... permarkets
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -new-rules
That would have to be put on the statute book with a parliamentary vote, and then there are the logistics of actually checking it (an easily forged bit of paper).
Far easier, from a legal perspective, to limit attendance to a third of capacity and sell only a third of seats (with distance between spectators).'"
By the time the season starts in March with the current rate there should be around 20 million people already vaccinated. That's approximately 1/3 of the population. Should be at least half the capacity in the stadium then, if not more IMO.
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Quote davids="davids"I don't think it's legally possible to require people to show evidence of vaccination to enter a public place. Look at the difficulties the police and staff have requiring people to mask up in supermarkets:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... permarkets
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -new-rules
That would have to be put on the statute book with a parliamentary vote, and then there are the logistics of actually checking it (an easily forged bit of paper).
Far easier, from a legal perspective, to limit attendance to a third of capacity and sell only a third of seats (with distance between spectators).'"
By the time the season starts in March with the current rate there should be around 20 million people already vaccinated. That's approximately 1/3 of the population. Should be at least half the capacity in the stadium then, if not more IMO.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"By the time the season starts in March with the current rate there should be around 20 million people already vaccinated. That's approximately 1/3 of the population. Should be at least half the capacity in the stadium then, if not more IMO.'"
If vaccinations continue at the current rate (supply of vaccine being the bottleneck) then we'll probably have around 17m on first does with 14 days 'kick in' period. But yes, that's around 1/3rd of the adult population (no plans at present to vaccinate the under 16s).
I'm expecting a far more gentle unlocking this time around. The Government have stated that schools will be the first back and today repeated that this is unlikely before 8th March. I would expect that the reopening of stadia is not top of the list but we should see limited numbers of fans by about May? It all depends upon whether infection rates stay low as each sector unlocks. Last time around infection rates were steady when schools and colleges went back. With no additional measures to cut transmission this could only mean that rates would rise, and they did. This time around the vaccinated pool will be growing each week to offset a staged return to normality.
We’ll only know that normality has truly returned in late September if we get dumped out of the play-offs.
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| Quote St Helens Wolf="St Helens Wolf"
I would expect that the reopening of stadia is not top of the list but we should see limited numbers of fans by about May?
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It's unfortunate but I agree with you.
If you read carefully, which I'm sure you do, (i.e. not just sensationalist tabloids) about how the virus is most likely to spread, it is in enclosed spaces with no fresh air, and the room fills up with a higher and higher concentration of droplets from the carriers in the room.
Being outside, as many of us know, has fairly minimal risk. The risk of transmission at a ground would be much higher in the lounges, which could be closed. However, the government will want to avoid being seen as careless by allowing outdoor sporting fixtures with big crowds to happen too quickly.
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