I agree but there's no need to pick on Castleford and Wakefield (I know that you weren't) but the biggest failing with the current set up IMO is the possibility of playing Saints and Wigan 4 or 5 times when you throw in Magic the Cup and Play off fixtures.

Not that I'm worried about playing top opposition but repetition does devalue the big game experience

Absolutely, Wigan isn't 'special' anymore it's more a case of 'jeez, not them again !! '

Exactly. Used to look forward to the Easter weekend, when we'd play Wigan and Widnes, and it might be one of only two Wigan games all season.

And that whole Easter weekend used to throw up some mad results too as teams faced their once a year home derby: relegation-threatened Halifax/Hull KR/Fev shooting down a high-flying Bradford/Hull/Cas and so on.

Although: Bradford and Widnes have won the major titles, relegation wasn’t their magic bullet, maybe it would be ours though.

Correct, from Cullen to present lots of material things changed, but all set against the backdrop psychic of our continued top division anonymity,, and still no grand final win.

Would relegation provide the shake up to the club psychic to galvanise the clubs hunger to attain that grand final victory?

What’s more important to the club, grand final victory or to protect the achievement of never having been relegated.

There is something missing from our club DNA, what’s left to try

I think Superblue may be onto something. It’s the club’s Psychic that is to blame. Why settle for shaking him/her up though. Sack them off and sign a new one preferably with a proven track record and not just comin* from an obscure satellite tv channel looking for a final big pay off.

You seem very comfortable with the underlying losing status quo there,

But how can you say it’s crazy talk, the relegation shock and awe low point experience for Warrington could be the catalyst to drive us on to greatness, couldn’t it

To use an OLD phrase, often used on these pages....

...."great site, lads"

Going back many years who was the idiot poster on here who use to include loads of emojis in their posts before emojis were even a thing?

Perhaps our problem lies in the length of the season , is it too long for us? We did ok in this season's after lock down games ,although most of our opponents were not at full strength , & we struggled against the top teams who managed to peak at the right part of the season. Last season we had a rapid decline starting pre Wembley . Perhaps 22 games is our limit, just coast along through them & not worry about having to peak to win the games that matter. The loop games are our downfall .

No fan of their team would take them getting relegated under any circumstances, we’ve experienced lows supporting Warrington and I know the generation before me certainly have. We didn’t win a play off game until 2006, we’ve enjoyed relative success since our first challenge cup victory in many a year in 2009 and we should’ve had that elusive grand final win but in sport nothings guaranteed. and although the rugby’s dull at the minute we’re still up there at the right end of the table and I wouldn’t swap that for bleak days In the championship thanks.

Three years on and we've been in the Championship for two years ... this forum might be different.

Quote "Remember those wonderful days in Super League. We finished third ... with a decent team and 3 top notch coaches. We seemed to have plenty of money then.
Those were the days eh! ...only appreciate the good times when they are gone."

Yes, beware the ghost of christmas yet to come...

The discussions on this board would be about whether our fans or Widnes fans were responsible for starting more trouble, complaints about Super League clubs being selfish when they voted to cut SL to 8 teams and stop promotion/relegation in response to financial difficulties in the top flight, moans about unfair playing field when Toulouse/Toronto were given special treatment on the salary cap and overseas player rules, rubber duckie telling us we would 'win the lot' if we appointed John Kear as coach, regrets at discovering our "once in a generation" player and watching him leave for SL after tearing up the Championship as a 19 year old and then going on to have a Sculthorpe-esque career with Saints, suspicion over the new takeover consortium headed by Eddie Shah and Derek Hatton offering to buy out the Board and rebrand us as Mersey Wolfs.