Me too. Always happier when he's on the pitch and he has nothing to apologise for in my eyes

Dress him up in Wigan top and blazer and pack him off to the disciplinary panel .guarantee he.ll get away with it

Will we get 2 extra points aswell

All packs need at least one capable of dishing it out when things get aggressive. He stays for me.

Pre “head butting” I don’t have any issue BUT it was a pointless headbutt that achieved nothing other than getting himself sent off. Rank stupidity in my view. His effort and worth to the team when on the field is clear to all.

If he'd turned round and landed one on his jaw cleaning him out he'd be looking at the same length of ban(ish) so don't see the problem. whether it's a punch or a headbut if someone is going to run in from the side and give it large they should expect to get dropped. Maybe if Thaler had a bit of authority about him and managed the game better and dealt with the high shots, tempers and emotions wouldn't run so high.

It's Rugby League, not a tickling contest. A tough, high intestity, physical game, played by athletes full of raw testosterone who have been toned/moulded/shaped & trained to run hard and fast with aggression. Then all the do-gooder, snowflake, 'someone think of the children', 'family game' types kick off and moan and act shocked when tempers flair.

People WANT to see the biff. the sport has become a drab, grey, un-marketable wasteland for about 6 years now. If warrington advertises games as 'bad blood', gets the fans on their feet and shows a big tough physical team taking no $h*7 from anyone, then good. Hopefully it'll inspire some other clubs to do the same instead of crying 'woe is me' and looking for RFL hand outs.

The problem is twofold,. 1 there was no need for it, it was the usual handbags
2 it was a pathetic attempt at a headbutt but will be treated very seriously by the disciplinary. Other than getting himself sent off what did it achieve? This isn’t about “snowflake” or “family game” etc
I would point out one thing though, if you commit an assault in everyday life and you use a headbutt that is considered the equivalent of using a weapon for sentencing purposes.

If I copped a cheap shot from the side and threw a headbutt it would be considered 'the use of reasonable force' in the event of self defence.

Anyway. Your point is null and void because this wasn't everyday life. It was during a game... A contact sport. I pray that some RL fans never make it to and Ice hockey game... I'd stay away from boxing and MMA as well, just to be sure.

One cretin keeps crying ‘assault’ on their board. I’d love to hear what he thought of Mr Flower’s punch in the 2014 GF, because a rubbish headbutt pales in comparison to smacking a bloke square in the face who’s already floored, in my humble and therefore correct opinion!

I might be being a bit thick or just don't understand how offences are graded but what is the difference between Liam Watts butt on Dom Crosby and what Westwood did.
Liam Watts was a grade C
Does the charge depend on your previous.

Going to tribunal so he'll be suspended Thursday and reviewed later.
Wigan did the same with Tautai and got him on a 3 game ban instead of 5-6.
We get Benny on a 3, and he's back for Saints away!

I started watching Rugby in the mid 70's so i know all about the "biff". Your self defence point is interesting but I can't see anyone trying to Justify Ben Westwood's actions on those grounds. The "sentencing" point was merely to highlight that use of the head is considered an aggravating factor.
I will be staying away from boxing and am amazed that it is still legal. Given the level of awareness about the effects of head injuries, how a civilised society can allow a sport that is based on inflicting blows to the head amazes me. I will also be avoiding cock fighting, bull fighting and bare knuckle fighting. I also think the fact that we no longer send young boys up chimneys is a good thing. If that makes me a snowflake in your eyes I wear that badge with pride.