I'm not sure scoring first/ scoring early is necessarily too important. I do think attitude is a problem, we don't respect possession and completion rates anywhere near enough and it puts us in trouble. Worryingly it doesn't seem to be something that the players themselves or coaches seem to be able to rectify in a game. If we start poorly we don't seem to improve. It's almost an arrogance that they feel these things are not important in terms of performance levels. I think recent matches should show us that we get turned over quite easily when we don't complete sets on our own terms and allow our halves to impose their kicking game on matches.

Off the cuff play if it comes off can look great & very entertaining, but unless other players are in the loop it is downright irresponsible &, as we know, can cause the team more unwanted problems. Poor ball retention can lead to a team going backwards during tackle sets.

Score first and then do as says below = win and 2pts

The fact is we are not Wigan , maybe we should grind out a few more results ,, TS is always emphasing defense but , we have scored more points than anyone , surely as wire fans we have to accept this is who we are , this is how we play

Frustrating though it is I prefer our style over that of Wigan or "The Entertainers"!
It is a style of play that I never thought I would see the Wire adopt!

I must say i prefer the off the cuff play, because i go to the match for entertainment ,& like most Warrington fans silverware is not uppermost in my mind, but the topic seemed to be more about winning & losing games.

The topic has turned into a winning/losing debate. When I hear "respecting possession" I hear "let's grind it out through the middle". Obviously last week took "not respecting possession " to hitherto uncharted territory and I hope never to see a repeat!

The topic has turned into a winning/losing debate. When I hear "respecting possession" I hear "let's grind it out through the middle". Obviously last week took "not respecting possession " to hitherto uncharted territory and I hope never to see a repeat!

Now there's irony.

Very good RD

The stats say the opposite.

We've scored first in 11 games, and gone on to win 8 of them.

Games which we've scored early (within 5 mins) and won: 6
Games which we've scored early (within 5 mins) and lost: 2

So good it was worth saying twice....ah say so good it was worth saying twice...