Didn't mention carMont's swinging arm and throttling of Lee smith that caused him to react, and kick out though either.

would you say the same thing if sam tomkins kicked out every time he was tackled high? NO!

The thread is about kicking out.... If Leeds had not been spoiling at the PTB all game, all would have been well. Or are you suggesting that Sam deliberatly got himself in a position with his shoulders on the floor, and his feet in the air?

Didn't miss. Smith got him square in the jaw.

Dangerous tackle needs looking at. Put JJB in danger!!!!

Your concern for good ole JJB is touching, if not a little self motivated, his tackle took the knees in their natural direction, surely if he wanted to injure the player, he would have gone in from the front to bend them back, and so cause injury.

I think I get RL rules, but I wouldn't say I know them inside out. Recently, when watching Wigan, I've noticed Tomkins pulling opposition players off his team mate whilst he's being tackled. I can't point out specific situations as I don't make proper notes on them, but I see him pulling players off whilst waiting to play the ball, or coming behind the opposition's third man and pulling him off then moving to play the ball. Is it allowed or is it just seen as run of the mill RL? Can't say I've ever seen a player get involved in stopping the opposition's defenders other than when a player's getting pushed into touch.

We had a player banned for 4 weeks for kicking out and his was nowhere near as bad as those on show on Friday. The amateurs get hammered for things that the pros get away with all the time! Surely it should be the other way round as the pros should be setting a good example?

Had Carmont not smacked him, then Smith would not have kicked out. If Smith gets cited, so does Carmont. The Tomkins kicking out was just petulance. The person who I would expect to be up at Red Hall this week is Ryan Bailey once again.

Was that away at Westhoughton? If so it just shows how depending on which side of the fence you sit how you view things. If it was the one the player got sent off in that game it was much worse. Four games was harsh though.

Think people need to remember Wigan play by different rules and are exempt by the RFL the same punishments of other clubs

It was dangerous, but I don't think intentional though.