Padders, you say improve the league when TV revenues increase and allow. Take London and Catalans out of the Super League and I garuntee the price of our TV deal will only go one way and that is down. I believe I read 50% of Super League viewerships are in the South? Many will take in interest in London I am sure of that.

On the original post, to take Catalans out of the Super League for Leigh is just an absurd idea.
In good form Catalans can average 10,000+ fans in a mediterranian climate with as good an atmosphere as anywhere in the league, not to mention the city as a whole throughout the day. If anyone has been and wishes they had gone to Leigh instead, then God help them.

Research the club before the Super League days and you will see them averaging 2,000 on a good day. You cannot simply say let them play in the French competition to grow the game in France, what is the strategy behind that? In Super League they have the platform and exposure to grow, which they ultimately have done and a recent TV deal with a major International news channel signals that.

It's up to the clubs own fans to generate an atmosphere, if you took the time to watch a Spanish La Liga game on Sky you would realise this is achievable. I went to Malaga vs Valencia and there must have been around 50 Valencia fans maximum but the atmosphere topped anything in Super League. Focus on barracking for your own team rather than staring bluntly at the away stand without insults to hurl.

and Roddy B, I don't wish to take this off-topic but that avatar makes me sick. Why he has any support at all is beyond me, before he was found guilty fair enough, but after, he's a proven racist, and then to not shake hands with a man he abused who has offered his hand in forgiveness is incomprehendable. Rant over.

Good job I never taken time to read your post above that one. You're clearly devalued of a respectable education, either that or you're just commenting on something without making any effort to fully understand the entire situation?

I've read the full document, I've read the antics from the media and I've taken more than enough time to divulge the situation and garner an opinion on it. The fact you say he's a proven racist gives me the platform to pass on you and your pathetic post, as you simply aren't worth debating with when you clearly cannot grasp a situation and its outcomes. I can accept opinions opposing mine, I can't accept sweeping BS that is clearly one-sided.

Basically,Rob struggles with the truth. Always the victim.

Fact, he's just served an 8 game ban handed out by an independent comittee for racist remarks to another player. You have him as your avatar. Make of that what you will. This isn't even a football forum so I don't even see what the point of it is on this forum other than some sort of pride you have in a man guilty of racism that you wish to show off to everyone else. And no, I can tell you my education was not sub standard, hence I can see through my own opinions on clubs to make a considered judgement.

It's up to the home team to provide the crowd and atmosphere, the away support is a bonus.

If your education was so brilliant, you'd clearly see that he wasn't found guilty of racism. The man has done far too much in his life to be a racist, he has ethnic relations, he was massively active in charitable work whilst out in South Africa for the world cup, so much so he set up his own foundation there. How much work for the 'other race' do all of these proud, anti-racist Brits do? If you want to debate the merits of the word 'negro' (pronounced negg-ro), I'll happily do that with you via PM, but if you want to tell me I'm wrong for supporting somebody who was found guilty on the basis of probability and alleged reliability, then please, don't waste your time, I have dozens of posts in the football thread arguing my point on there.

In fact, save yourself the time of replying, your idiocy in your first couple of posts show you clearly know very little of the situation to debate it.

Still waiting this PM of yours giving me the knowledge that an armchair fan like me simply cannot possess...

Back on the original topic, I've got a lot of respect for those Broncos fans who seem to travel to every game. There's always a solid group of between 10-20. Credit to their club.

London deserve their place in SL much more than Leigh. Your only case could be for Featherstone who keep winning the Championship, but are their facilities suitable for a SL licence? Obviously funding is a major issue and stumbling block for them due to the lack of money in the 2nd tier but that's a different issue altogether.

As far as Catalan are concerned, well if a top 6 team with solid home support, great community work and expansion of our game dont deserve a licence, you might as well say goodbye to Cas, Wakey, Salford, Widnes, Bradford & HKR too.

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Think one or two of you are missing the point I was trying to make, I can remember when teams such as Leigh visited and brought a good number of fans and this generated a far better atmosphere than when London come and also maybe the Catalans. I was never seriously proposing that Leigh replace Catalan or London for that matter. Yes Featherstone have a better case than Leigh don't get hung up on the Leigh/Catalan issue it is all about the atmosphere or lack of it having witnessed it for the last 20 years or so (not sure how long London in one form or another have been in existence).

Based on that I was asking if the London experiment has been a success or not and yes we do appear to have given up on Cumbria, not sure if everyone will ever agree on this subject but at least the post has shown there is a lot of feeling out there maybe the Rugby League should canvas supporters more what am I saying Rugby League talk to fans never happen.

So let me get this straight. The success or otherwise of a particular club and for that matter the desire to expand the geographical spread of the sport can be measured simply by the atmosphere at a Warrington home game? Is that what this thread is about?

I was going to provide some sensible response but I fear it would fall on un-hearing ears. So I'll set a challenge to the doubters - can you think of other ways than atmosphere that a club might be contributing to the sport?