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Saints Fan in peace and would like to say, after watching every game of the "magic" weekend it certainly wasn't magic for you. Having said that though didn't deserve to win your game, as you were for the most part of the game, flat, you didn't deserve the bad luck with the injuries sustained in your opening game of the season. I would like to hope that we will be playing your strongest available squad on Feb 25th and that it has the same drama as the game at the Halliwell Jones last August.

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Bad luck is the main answer to this question. But ... and I have never seen any stats about ... do you get more injuries when you are losing? My gut feeling is when you are struggling in a game you pick up more injuries. When you are on top you get less. Has anyone any evidence to support this??

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It's just 99% luck. You can be the best conditioned, fittest players in the history of the world. Your ligaments can still be ruptured by you walking or getting out of bed, never mind wrestling with other 20 stone athletes like they do.

Warrington were very lucky with injuries last season. This year might not be your year for it. You could have a run like Hull did and have 9 or 10 players out at a time. It happens in the sport.

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Let's not kid ourselves here..... yes, there were injuries, however before this our ball retention and discipline were poor. Huddersfield were the better team and beat us fair and square.

Early days and our title credentials will be questioned over the next few weeks. I'm sure we'll rise to the challenge

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Bad luck is the main answer to this question. But ... and I have never seen any stats about ... do you get more injuries when you are losing? My gut feeling is when you are struggling in a game you pick up more injuries. When you are on top you get less. Has anyone any evidence to support this??

pete'"


There has been a suggestion that injuries can be sustained when a player enters contact somewhat 'halfheartedly'. This has no real proven evidence as you can't really measure a players desire at any given time. The theory behind it is that for instance in Briers' case, when a concussion is sustained. If Briers went into the tackle without his full vigour and determination then his body would not be as taught, tensed and as ready for the contact as it would be normally, therefore he would be more susceptable to having an injury such as a concussion (lack of concentration on head positioning), or in Cooper's case, a dislocated shoulder as his body is just not ready for the impact.

I am not saying that either of these players played halfheaterdly, just using them as an example. So to summarise, some people may say that a deflated player could be more likely to pick up an injury and there is an argument behind it, but there is no real hard evidence to support the argument as none can be obtained.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Bad luck that we looked unfit and out of condition or are you on about the injuries that are normally a spin off from being unfit and out of condition ?'"


Your saying the injury to Kings knee and Briers' head was due to being unfit or out of condition???

Bring me Usain Bolt, let me bend his leg almost in half and see if that doesnt do any damage because he is fit and conditioned. Also, let me knee him in the head and bend his neck back and see if he doesnt get concussed.

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None of them could be prevented apart from (maybe) Bridge which to be honest I didn't really see it happen but potentially again goes back to his lack of flexibility.

I personally can offer sympathy to King as I got exactly the same injury in exactly the same circumstances eight years ago. Still having all sorts of problems and have just had another operation to try and sort it. You are better off breaking your leg.

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It's all Jon Clarke's fault. Or Mike Wainwright's.

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Good time in Cardiff Hilly?

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Quote: Hardcore Legend "bad luck mainly, nothing to do with conditioning apart from possibly Bridge's, in regards to King's injury i'm surprised that more players are not injured by this sort of tackling. Something just irks me about a defending player tackling low around the legs (so the legs can't move) then another player tackles the upper body and drives the player backwards, if the player around the legs has a firm grip of the legs then the only outcome is for the leg to buckle and bend either one way or another.

In fact thinking about it, is it down to bad luck or suspicious methods of tackling by the opposition? I mean to get one of two serious/non serious injuries in one game is back luck but 5? Really????'"


Kylie had this happen to him last season at Headingley, v Crusaders, he got to his feet though and wanted to smack the offender - still out for a few weeks when our pack was decimated. It has been mentioned before that although legal its concequences are that players get injured very easily and miss three, four or more weeks out. You would have to look at every instance to see if there were any trends or malice involved.

Dont like to see players get injured and laid out on the field for minutes on end - bad memories. Hope all your injured arent out for too long. Besides King, how are they?

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Have to concurr that the injuries sustained by Kingy & Briersy have nothing to do with conditioning or lack of it, but...what surpised me most over the weekend was the pre season some teams had and the number of SL clubs that played each other, as in not just 1.
Was wondering, with only 1 Testimonial game against a SL side, 'could' this be something to do with the way we played Saturday ?
Agree, we got beaten by a better team, but we did sort of help them along quite a bit, what with missed passes, silly penalties, and looking in my opinion, a bit slow...Hudds I think played at least 3 matches and am sure the guy said 2 SL teams.
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Quote: BackrowSaint "There has been a suggestion that injuries can be sustained when a player enters contact somewhat 'halfheartedly'. This has no real proven evidence as you can't really measure a players desire at any given time. The theory behind it is that for instance in Briers' case, when a concussion is sustained. If Briers went into the tackle without his full vigour and determination then his body would not be as taught, tensed and as ready for the contact as it would be normally, therefore he would be more susceptable to having an injury such as a concussion (lack of concentration on head positioning), or in Cooper's case, a dislocated shoulder as his body is just not ready for the impact.

I am not saying that either of these players played halfheaterdly, just using them as an example. So to summarise, some people may say that a deflated player could be more likely to pick up an injury and there is an argument behind it, but there is no real hard evidence to support the argument as none can be obtained.'"

so to summarise waffle,waffle,waffle what are you talking about??????????????????

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Bridge seemed to tweak his hamstring within 5minutes of the warm up at Widnes. Probably too cold for him again in Cardiff.

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i'm sure he did at the leigh warm up , thinking back now.

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