Sam Obst

This a monumentally daft thread even for here. To even get to the point of having a career in the sport the player must have consistently exhibited exceptional talent through game after game in junior, youth and academy grade rugby.

Ade Gardner...

No you're wrong. It's about who has made the most out of limited talent, some just work very hard and and really make the most of what they've got. These people are in all walks of life not just RL.

I believe Morley wasnt considered the most talented player at youth level and early on. He struggled at first when he went to australia.
Now whether he had immense talent hidden underneath or just worked very, very hard I don't know.
Jamie Peacock probably comes under this category too

Leona Lewis

Ray Quinn

Simon Cowell

In answer to the original question, she worked wonders with limited talent.

Paul Cullen and Mark Forster were 2 players who made good long careers out of limited talent but had the dedication and commitment to make the very most out of what they had.

Would also Nat Wood more recently who had bags of heart and was incrand edibly fit but not the most talented half back ever.

I would hope that Kevin Penny could look at someone like Mark Forster and realise that just because he's struggling to get into the Warrington team this season, dedication and effort will be rewarded. Kevin is much faster obviously, just needs to apply himself and keep learning and could have a long career at the top.

Agree about Cull.
Some talent but real determination.

Stephen hawkins..