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All this has done has probably speeded up his exit to union by 12 months.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Wigan have come out of this very poorly, indeed.

The world and his dog started jumping all over this issue from the moment it happened.
It's been "hyped-up" out of all proportions ever since.
It's been mentioned on national sports reports, and covered in the printed media.
All this could have been nipped in the bud, a couple of hours after the game, or first thing Sunday morning, when Wigan finished celebrating.

We all know Tomkins was (morally) in the wrong (as I said previously, he's a RL player, not exactly known for his brain). Wigan should have said to him "listen sunshine, you've made a bit of a pratt of yourself, go and apologise, and everyone will quickly forget about it". Instead, they let it fester for 48 hours, which has cooked up more paranoia throughout the game.
No need for Wigan to go inside their "shell", and have a debate about it, with a "shall we, shall we not" attitude, with regards a statement. We all know what happened.

Poor effort all round.

This should have been dealt with a lot sooner.'"

I agree with all you have written,i think if it hadn't blown so much out of proportion Wigan may well of just had a quiet word but their hand was forced on this one personally a ban would be a bit ott

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To me, Wigan are merely trying to head the RFL off at the pass so to speak.

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Do we think that the Tomkins brothers are now officially the "thicky twins".
We know most footballers have brains in their feet and trouser area, and that RL players aren't exactly renowned for their intelligence, but it is about time that the RL and referees clamped down on speaking to refs and touch judges. Otherwise we will end up like football with Wigan, the Man U of the RL, abusing officials about every decision that goes against them. And Sam's "apology" is a typical Man U ploy to draw the fire of the RL away from ratboy.
Let's give him stick on Sunday.

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Quote: Richeastender "Do we think that the Tomkins brothers are now officially the "thicky twins".
We know most footballers have brains in their feet and trouser area, and that RL players aren't exactly renowned for their intelligence, but it is about time that the RL and referees clamped down on speaking to refs and touch judges. Otherwise we will end up like football with Wigan, the Man U of the RL, abusing officials about every decision that goes against them. And Sam's "apology" is a typical Man U ploy to draw the fire of the RL away from ratboy.
Let's give him stick on Sunday.'"



Which will probably be abuse, one and two fingured salutes, and that sign which indicates he indulges in the pleasures of the palm.....in which case, we'll be no better than he is.

Yes, OK, let's give him stick, but we shouldn't be taking the moral highground, because we'll be doing the same as what he's done. Double standards, methinks.

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A fine from Wigan is enough(probably £50). We probably wouldn't be that outraged if it was a different player.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Which will probably be abuse, one and two fingured salutes, and that sign which indicates he indulges in the pleasures of the palm.....in which case, we'll be no better than he is.

Yes, OK, let's give him stick, but we shouldn't be taking the moral highground, because we'll be doing the same as what he's done. Double standards, methinks.'"


There may be a slight difference in the two. One could argue that the pro sportsman occupation comes with the addition of stick from the opposition once a week. They get paid a more than complimentary wage and don't have to do as much as say a soldier or a doctor. Their are players who are part-timers who put in as muc, if not more, effort as sam and we must remember his occupation is purely in the field of recreation. Additionally, a supporter pays sam's wages and there is a slight expectation that supporters are there to get on players' backs.

However with ratboy and his slippery stupidity, I don't even care. Give him as much stick as poss!

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Leave Vomkins alone we don't need to give him stick to fire up his game, we could just jeer and whistle every time Wigan have the ball and turn the HJ in to the zoo

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Quote: Miike "
People keep bringing up past moments, the most common one being the Lee Briers v Leeds in 2006. But, the RFL shouldn't even consider that. They should take every case as something brand new. Forget about who the player is, what team they play for, just look at their previous history with the Commitee and the offense they are currently there for and punish according to the rules and guidelines.

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Whilst i agree with the fact that it was wrong, I do not agree with this part. One of the most common complaints about the RFL is that they are not consistent enough.

And i don't like having to bring up incidents like the briers/lee smith one... but like i said in my earlier post, if they ban sam because there was a few more people than usual watching on the bbc then they are as good as saying that you can do it in superleague, we'll just give you a slap on the wrist...but do it on the bbc and your in trouble. Hardly fair is it? A dangerous tackle wouldn't be punished any more severly because it's on the bbc so why should this incident? The most important thing is treating cases consistently...

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Good point from Keith Senior on twitter along the lines.....

"It takes a man to apologise for his actions, however to be ordered to read a statement prepared by somebody else in a feeble attempt to apologise..........takes THE MAN out of that!!"

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Quote: Albino Wolf 2 "Good point from Keith Senior on twitter along the lines.....

"It takes a man to apologise for his actions, however to be ordered to read a statement prepared by somebody else in a feeble attempt to apologise..........takes THE MAN out of that!!"'"


Seeing his initial response when questioned about it was along the lines of 'I don't know what you're talking about' proves that the 'apology' has little meaning. Personally I hope he isn't banned and we have the opportunity to crunch the the little wazzock on Sunday.

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No bans for any Wigan players this week.

Doubt over Josh Charnley and Lee Mossop.

No excuses

Come on Wire

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Come on everyone, let's calm down here

A rugby league player (face facts, they're not exactly known for their brains) makes a crude hand gesture....let's open the gates to the Tower of London and have him incarcerated.
It's been done before, it'll be done again.

I don't know why some want him banned. I bet these people have NEVER joined in in an abusive chant or shouted something abusive themselves at an individual player

Spot on!

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Anyway, it's all over now. Let's call it a day and move on to the next argument.

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Yes i agree

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