But these are the players he's decided he wants Dita???? This is his assembled side.

If we get rid of Powell we 'could' get Justin Holbrook. Holbrook would do a lot better with this group of players and then he'd set about adding some quality I should imagine - ridding the side of Matautia, Minikin, Dudson, Dufty, Ratchford....and a few others.

As Powell himself stated Leeds made the GF when changing coach mid-season and Holbrook was a conversion away from a GF in his first half season.

Not sure we could get a coach that would give us a poorer win record than Powell has - but then again KFP may well go and get John Kear.

That Leeds side got to the final almost by default, on the premise that the rest of the league is so mediocre. Admittedly, the same thing could happen for us, but in the lottery that is this season's SL, there's as much probability of us just continuing our slide down the table.

I'm not trying to defend Powell by the way - I thought last night was indefensible - but I just fail to see the quality in our side that gets us near a GF. And yes, it's Powell's team and so he has to take responsibility, but I'm not sure this sacking him midway through a season changes much, when ultimately, our squad isn't upto that much.

It will put an early end to what would've been a very, very painful 3 year stint. HIS squad is weak and it seems he's determined to make it weaker - Dwyer - retention of Matautia. Getting rid now may achieve nothing this season but keeping him will achieve nothing but further pain.

Like I say, I'm not defending him. I've always stated that a finish outside the top 6 should put his Wire stay at an end and I certainly agree I'd like to be hearing about far more positive stuff on the recruitment front than what we presently have.

But again, I think our problems as a club as a whole go far deeper than simply sacking Powell.

Which I said somewhere that Powell is not wholly responsible for this mess we are in now, but normal routine of any sports team is sack the coach/ manager. But in this case we have had issues for longer than Powell has been here it goes further back it’s poor Director decisions and Fitzpatrick is the front of that even if poeple say well it’s Moran that signs the checks etc.the back office as got to take some responsibility.

Actually the thing that annoys me about Powell right now is coming out and saying he dislikes the booing, well he needs to remember the team gets paid to play and the fans pay to watch, we can take a defeat if the effort is there but when was last time we saw effort Catalan in the cup?

Sorry, sorry, SORRY but I do not for one second buy the argument that a good coach, respected by the players couldn't get a level of success with this team. Not a GF win maybe, but CC was achievable and top 4 should have been nailed on after the start we had.

This squad beat Catalans in France twice. They can do it when they want to, but for whatever reason they have downed tools.

Lam at Leigh and Peters at HKR prove what a good coach can do with a squad built on passion, mutual reapect, organisation and commitment ..... and coaching.

So genuine question - do you think Leighs group of misfits and rejects are a better side than us?

I don't. However Lam is getting every ounce out of his players while Powell is underachieving with a better squad. And I would say there's every reason to change the coaching set up now and virtually no reasons to perserve with something that's failing with very little signs of turning around.

The "what have we got to lose" argument is quite pervasive. I dont think we are on the cusp of building a dynasty with DP. In fact I think we are watching the train derail in slow motion.

I can't imagine any decent coach doing any worse and we may get a turnaround with a change.

Its only pity that i want to give him a chance

We're down to 4th and theres a good chsnce we wlll be out of the top 6 in the next couple of weeks

Saints were not that great tonight, maybe their minds were on the big game next week but they will still beat us. Wigan week after well it’s Wigan and then Wakefield who seem to be starting something, fills you with joy does it not

We're in the worst of all situations. We were mired in mediocrity and brought in a coach who would clean house and bring a new culture. Sensible decision.

There now seem to be a whole load of different problems with the culture with these guys who we have brought in than with the guys we had before. I'm sure some of them are looking at Wire now and thinking "Ha - see, we weren't the problem". Lots of them were the problem, it was right to get rid of them, what we got wrong was who we brought in.

Now if we bring in a new coach they will be inheriting guys they didn't necessarily want, and it will take a few years for contracts to expire and do another job of cleaning house.

I would give Powell to the end of this season at least and see where we are with his squad. Probably down the bottom end of the table again. But if we're going to do another job of cleaning house we need to go deeper than the coach and players, we need to overhaul the whole approach to recruitment because for about a decade our recruitment has been garbage. Year after year we bring in players who don't work out.

We throw money at overseas players without being certain other than the motivation of the cash the reason for coming....unless someone is coming because it's part of a greater holistic desire to play and experience with their family for a couple of years a different culture they really shouldn't be on the plane nor considered by the club because the homesick card is something that should have been more thoroughly considered by an incoming player before getting to the airport rather than just the cheque on arrival

misfits and rejects??? wow! I wouldn't go that far, but.................................

Atm yes! 2nd in league, and in semi final of cc. TBH - It looks like Powelly is losing the dressing room.

I don’t agree that our squad is better. Leigh have much better centres, a better hooker, a half as good as Williams and in better form, more punch in the pack (certainly second row - no not Holmes), a winger on fire and more playmakers.

I think Powell has got an average squad playing badly and that’s why we’re in a mess.

Haha yeah fair enough a bit strong maybe buy what, they've got 6 of our former players that weren't deemed good enough, hardaker who is decent but seemingly difficult to manage, Briscoe who leeds didn't want to keep, mellor who I'm sure we've been linked with over the years and most on here didn't think he was good enough......

The point I was trying to make (albeit badly) was a good coach will find a way to get the best out of players and unfortunately that's not happening with us. I watch leigh playing with energy, working for each other and exciting in attack and frankly I'm jealous.

I'm not saying our recruitment hasn't been pap and that's another serious issue, but a coach has to work with what he's got until he can change it. Powell has been given the chance to change it and non of our playing issues have gone away - like I see zero improvement anywhere