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Quote Wires71="Wires71"If the search facility on here worked we could see that many people at the time were surprised and amazed at the furore around King's extension discussions and being linked to other clubs - including Saints. There were also those who thought he was the next Gene Miles and that we had to sign him. So I don't believe it was not unanimous "we must sign him".'"
With the odd exception about not overpaying (which is a fair point) and wiremansam being his usual contrary attention seeking self, this thread seems to have a bit of a consensus
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Quote Wires71="Wires71"If the search facility on here worked we could see that many people at the time were surprised and amazed at the furore around King's extension discussions and being linked to other clubs - including Saints. There were also those who thought he was the next Gene Miles and that we had to sign him. So I don't believe it was not unanimous "we must sign him".'"
With the odd exception about not overpaying (which is a fair point) and wiremansam being his usual contrary attention seeking self, this thread seems to have a bit of a consensus
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Well in his Wire days ...
Pros
1. He could collect a cross field kick and score.
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1. He lacked pace. HE WAS ABOUT AVERAGE, ID NEVER CONSIDERD IT AS A PROBLEM
2. He didn't create opportunities for his winger. GRANTED HES MORE OF A SENIOR TYPE CENTRE THAN A GLEESON BUT HE DID OK,AND AT THE START OF 2021 THROUGH TO HIM GETTING INJURED, THAT LEFT SIDE ATTACK, KING LINEHAM AND WIDDOP WERE SCORING FOR FUN
3. His defensive positioning was all over the place, often shooting out of the line. 2021 AND BEFORE HE WAS A HIGHLU RATED DEFENSIVE CENTRE, WHOD BEEN AN ENGLAND INTERNATIONAL AND DREAM TEAM PICK
4. He insisted on training with his dog.
5. He's a little forgetful of essential ID documents.'"
People are conflating last years king in a basket case club butting heads with Powell to the one prior to this. He wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making out, just now he's on a list people are making out he was a lot worse than he was.
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Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"With the odd exception about not overpaying (which is a fair point) and wiremansam being his usual contrary attention seeking self, this thread seems to have a bit of a consensus
https://viewtopic.php?f=21&t=633510'"
Thanks for that.  Opinions seemed to vary from "the best centre in SL" to "not in the top 10 centres in Warrington's recent squads".
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Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"With the odd exception about not overpaying (which is a fair point) and wiremansam being his usual contrary attention seeking self, this thread seems to have a bit of a consensus
https://viewtopic.php?f=21&t=633510'"
Thanks for that.  Opinions seemed to vary from "the best centre in SL" to "not in the top 10 centres in Warrington's recent squads".
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| It seems difficult both to get off the "poop" list & the young outstanding "future star" list. Reality is that players are not usually as bad or as good as all that.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"People are conflating last years king in a basket case club butting heads with Powell to the one prior to this. He wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making out, just now he's on a poop list people are making out he was a lot worse than he was.'"
His form prior to signing his contract (under Price in May 2021) was good. Then for the rest of 2021 he was poor if you recall. I think he scored 1 or 2 tries in the remainder of the season. Then 2022 we all know what happened.
Personally I think he is an average (at best) SL centre but certainly not worth an elevated contract. If he doesn't come back to Warrington I won't be too troubled. Others rate him much higher and that's fine. Time will tell anyway.
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| It would be much easier if we knew just how much players are actually paid. Unfortunately we guess.
Someone even suggested that players might accept less money to play St Helens or Wigan ... but we'll never really know. One thing that certainly doesn't help King's popularity is the thought that he is paid a fortune.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"His form prior to signing his contract (under Price in May 2021) was good. Then for the rest of 2021 he was poor if you recall. I think he scored 1 or 2 tries in the remainder of the season. Then 2022 we all know what happened.
Personally I think he is an average (at best) SL centre but certainly not worth an elevated contract. If he doesn't come back to Warrington I won't be too troubled. Others rate him much higher and that's fine. Time will tell anyway.'"
Yup, for some weird reason at the end of 21(after widdop came back as well) we just stopped what we had been doing successfully. And slithered across the finishing line.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Thanks for that.
Opinions seemed to vary from "the best centre in SL" to "not in the top 10 centres in Warrington's recent squads".'"
An interesting read looking back either way, quite fortunate that we had all the bits in one thread, thankfully
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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"Wrench has played(out of position)on the wing plenty of times for us. He's still looked good and scored tries.'"
Not knocking the kid, I think he has a future, but I don't think he has a settled position. In youth rugby he was an excellent running half, when he got to academy level it was felt his passing game wasn't good enough to be a long term half. So he transitioned to back row and did well, pushing for first team he was considered too small to be a back rower, and it was felt his pace would be better used out wide - centre being an obvious transition from back row but winger is also on the cards. I don't think he has a settled position now and to me it seems Chambers sees him more of a winger - for now at least.
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| It does seem that those who have seen lots have him have got more doubts than those who have just seen his obvious try scoring potential when put into space. He's got pace, no doubt. His selection on the wing for the reserves may be a one off but perhaps not.
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Could anyone find the classic thread about the bus that did a day trip to Catalans and back?
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Could anyone find the classic thread about the bus that did a day trip to Catalans and back?
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