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| I still think a 7's tournement would work better and be more enjoyable
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| Quote: Wires71 "Sunday's attendance was 25,401. Total for Magic Weekend 2010 is 52,043 down 18% on last year's 63,144.
Last weekend's normal SL round attracted 67,818.
Can only be considered a failure. I suggest we play it at Old Trafford or Eastlands next year (if we must persist with it).'"
You are Bobby Fulton and I claim my £5.
I had another top weekend, really enjoyed it. I'm afraid RL has a very high proportion of moaners amongst it's fanbase. Edinburgh has to be one of the best cities in the UK to spend a weekend in - absolutely loads to do and see there (as long as you are prepared to put a tiny bit of effort in and don't expect to be spoon fed). No it's not a quick hour's drive along the M62 - but that's the whole point! It's somewhere many RL people don't visit very often if at all and so a weekend away is justified. I certainly wouldn't consider spending a weekend somewhere like Manchester or Leeds or Birmingham.
The matches themselves - as I expected - were not as predictable as everyone thought and as usual the games deemed "least attractive" were the most interesting. The supposed top game, Wigan v Hudds was dull in the 1st half and one sided in the 2nd. Most games though had good entertaiment.
The point people often make about the stadium location - well again I don't see the problem. OK, yes it's not in the centre so you can't just pop in and out of the stadium but this doesn't have to be a major drawback. It really isn't that far to walk and a taxi isn't too expensive between a few of you.
The only two big criticisms I have are: the weather and marketing. I think it should be played slightly later in the year - maybe the second May bank holiday - to have a better chance of decent temperatures and less chance of rain. And yet again there was zero promotion of the event in the city, surely a bit of effort there could have attracted more locals to attend.
Anyone who hasn't been to any of the events, I would urge you to give it a go (if we are lucky enough to get another one) - we can be very self defeating at times. People moan that it doesn't look very good because the crowds are poor so don't bother = downward spiral.
I hope the Magic Weekend stays and more people give it a chance next year. I would like a change from Edinburgh - just for a bit of variety, as I don't have many complaints about it as a venue - maybe a different date and alot more promotion.
But let's not throw away a good idea too soon. Look at State of Origin...
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| play it at craven cottage
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Quote: SEB "You are Bobby Fulton and I claim my £5.
I had another top weekend, really enjoyed it. I'm afraid RL has a very high proportion of moaners amongst it's fanbase. Edinburgh has to be one of the best cities in the UK to spend a weekend in - absolutely loads to do and see there (as long as you are prepared to put a tiny bit of effort in and don't expect to be spoon fed). '"
Good for you. I hope I am not included as a moaner or requiring spoon feeding. Indeed I went last year and am well aware of the charms of Edinburgh as a city (although Athens of the North is a bit of a stretch).
I just pointed out that the attendance was down markedly on last year and that, together with the feedback I've read, that it could be considered a failure in general.
In closing I wonder how many native Scots attended the games - which afterall is what it is all about - showcasing RL.
It seems I am not alone, interesting article here. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 658027.stm
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Quote: SEB "You are Bobby Fulton and I claim my £5.
I had another top weekend, really enjoyed it. I'm afraid RL has a very high proportion of moaners amongst it's fanbase. Edinburgh has to be one of the best cities in the UK to spend a weekend in - absolutely loads to do and see there (as long as you are prepared to put a tiny bit of effort in and don't expect to be spoon fed). '"
Good for you. I hope I am not included as a moaner or requiring spoon feeding. Indeed I went last year and am well aware of the charms of Edinburgh as a city (although Athens of the North is a bit of a stretch).
I just pointed out that the attendance was down markedly on last year and that, together with the feedback I've read, that it could be considered a failure in general.
In closing I wonder how many native Scots attended the games - which afterall is what it is all about - showcasing RL.
It seems I am not alone, interesting article here. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 658027.stm
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| Quote: Wires71 "Good for you. I hope I am not included as a moaner or requiring spoon feeding. Indeed I went last year and am well aware of the charms of Edinburgh as a city (although Athens of the North is a bit of a stretch).
I just pointed out that the attendance was down markedly on last year and that, together with the feedback I've read, that it could be considered a failure in general.
In closing I wonder how many native Scots attended the games - which afterall is what it is all about - showcasing RL.
It seems I am not alone, interesting article here.
No, wasn't including you in the moaning or spoon feeding bit. But I stand my Bobby Fulton analogy. Instead of throwing the concept aay because crowds are down and local interest low, we should be looking at why and looking to do better next year. i.e. better weather, more marketing, encouraging local schools to attend/take part somehow, engaging local businesses etc should all help.
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| Looking at generating more interest in attending yes ... But has anyone suggested it has nose dived financially since moving to Scotland ? I understand it hasn't!
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| Quote: SEB "No, wasn't including you in the moaning or spoon feeding bit. But I stand my Bobby Fulton analogy. Instead of throwing the concept aay because crowds are down and local interest low, we should be looking at why and looking to do better next year. i.e. better weather, more marketing, encouraging local schools to attend/take part somehow, engaging local businesses etc should all help.'"
This is where the apathetic nature of some RL fans comes into play, we're 4 years into the magic weekend thingy now, and you could say suggestions of that nature have been made every year since it started, and despite the RFL and nigel wood coming out with the same positive spin and BS about what a success it is, when really it just feels overall like a big let down.
I know i mentioned this after the second magic event at cardiff that they could have given loads of free tickets away for certain sections of the stadium to local schools and clubs and whatever else youth oriented groups to get people, families, kids, parents in to see the event. As i say, 4 years in, still nowhere near half filling the stadiums at anyone time, seats to spare, they could do this. Get the locals in, strangely, the only actual scottish person i spoke to in the stadium at the weekend was a fella who lives in warrington and i've known him for years.
We actually got kicked out of the upper tier during the wakey leeds game as it was shut.
Now, just to say, i'm saying these things above, not as a naysayer but a fan of RL above Warrington Wolves, i go for the weekend to see as many of the games as possible, not just my own team, if its on again in the same capacity i'll be going again for the full weekend.
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| play it at craven cotage plz.
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| Have heard rumours that they want it in dublin for 2011 but can't see a lot of people attending that myself!!!
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| Quote: MrsLouisAnderson "Have heard rumours that they want it in dublin for 2011 but can't see a lot of people attending that myself!!!'"
dublin , newcastle , city of manchester stadium
also heard that they wont be doing a magic weekend
and also heard there going to do it before the start of the season
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| Its need a change, the Edinburgh one hasn't quite worked and it's gone abit stale in my opinion.
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| Quote: howley-wire "dublin , newcastle , city of manchester stadium
also heard that they wont be doing a magic weekend
and also heard there going to do it before the start of the season'"
Then you heard wrong !
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| Quote: SEB "You are Bobby Fulton and I claim my £5.
I had another top weekend, really enjoyed it. I'm afraid RL has a very high proportion of moaners amongst it's fanbase. Edinburgh has to be one of the best cities in the UK to spend a weekend in - absolutely loads to do and see there (as long as you are prepared to put a tiny bit of effort in and don't expect to be spoon fed). No it's not a quick hour's drive along the M62 - but that's the whole point! It's somewhere many RL people don't visit very often if at all and so a weekend away is justified. I certainly wouldn't consider spending a weekend somewhere like Manchester or Leeds or Birmingham.
The matches themselves - as I expected - were not as predictable as everyone thought and as usual the games deemed "least attractive" were the most interesting. The supposed top game, Wigan v Hudds was dull in the 1st half and one sided in the 2nd. Most games though had good entertaiment.
The point people often make about the stadium location - well again I don't see the problem. OK, yes it's not in the centre so you can't just pop in and out of the stadium but this doesn't have to be a major drawback. It really isn't that far to walk and a taxi isn't too expensive between a few of you.
The only two big criticisms I have are: the weather and marketing. I think it should be played slightly later in the year - maybe the second May bank holiday - to have a better chance of decent temperatures and less chance of rain. And yet again there was zero promotion of the event in the city, surely a bit of effort there could have attracted more locals to attend.
Anyone who hasn't been to any of the events, I would urge you to give it a go (if we are lucky enough to get another one) - we can be very self defeating at times. People moan that it doesn't look very good because the crowds are poor so don't bother
At last. I thought I was on my own....
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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!: |
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| Three things needed for magic weekend to succeed:-
Accessability
Affordability
Support
A long trip to Edinburg (a heartland of rugby UNION on a weekend where I understand there was a rugby union tournament on) seems to fail on all three.
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| I also went for the whole weekend, main reason being there to watch all the other teams in action live as this is the only chance of the season where we get this opportunity.
I agree with above, don't throw away the idea too soon.
If I had to decide on a location, I would say Newcastle for the reasons;
1 - Plenty of accomodation in and around the city centre
2 - Much cheaper than a capital city
3 - The stadium is right in the centre of the city so keeping costs down for what can get quite an expensive weekender
4 - It's close enough for a day trip for fans who may not be able to afford to stay the whole weekend
5 - It will help boost RL in the local area and this can surely only benefit Gateshead Thunder
6 - Smaller stadium and personally I believe it creates a better atmosphere than Murrayfield
But obviously there are downsides;
1 - Business end of the football season and Newcastle will be a Prem outfit (Maybe move to the latter May bank hol?)
2 - Weather could go either way (Out of control, increase the odds of increased temperatures again by moving it back a few weeks?)
3 - Will Newcastle even want 7 games of RL on their pitch and 14 teams over a bank holiday weekend? (From a tourism point of view surely they would be mad to say no?)
4 - Cardiff lost the event as they did not take steps to promote the event locally, would Newcastle bother being such a football mad city? (Tourism and money again surely...)
5 - Stadium will still look empty if between 25-35k turn up per day (close off sections of the stadium, eg. upper tier or give away unsold tickets to local schools and colleges)
Other issue is the matches, but I read on an earlier post, a mixture of derbies and seeded games would be excellent, Wire v Pies, Stains v Leeds, Hull derby, Bulls v Hudd, Cas v Wakey, Salford v Crusaders, Quins v Catalans...
All in all, a lot of valid points have been made but please RFL do not scrap this idea... The chance to watch 14 teams, 7 games of RL in 2 days is brilliant as I love the sport and this can only be a good advert for the sport. That's what it's all about is it not?
Let's get an SL wide poll going... Majority wins? Either way, make a decision soon guys, I want to make the plans and get it booked!!!
Roll on St James Magic 2011!!
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