FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Warrington Wolves > Rugby League World Cup 2013
157 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16271
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Barbed Wire "I think we will be competitive in the WC. In fact, for the first time in recent memory I am looking forward to an international series and have purchased multiple tickets aleady, 8 months in advance. I can't wait. We have a strong pack, decent (I know, not spectacular) centres and halves, and we have a full back and wingers of NRL standard. If Myler can continue his progress, and Sinfield carries his SL form into the series we will be ok. Widdop will be very near a jumper if playing regular, and is great competition for the other halves.'"


Depends what you mean by we will be OK. If you mean we will get to the semis or final, and beat anyone apart from NZ and Australia I agree with you we will be OK, we are 3rd in the world and there is nobody like France, PNG that is close to threatening our 3rd spot.

If you mean we will beat the Kangaroos then no. The pack is more or less similar level to theirs, but the gulf in the halves and the outside backs is huge. Even our best two players (Tomkins and Roby) would not be first choice in the Kangaroos because they would be behind Billy Slater and Cameron Smith.

This is the same situation it has been for years. I don't see any evidence that England has upgraded its quality to close the gap. If we did then I'd be more hopeful. Sinfield is a great leader and a very good player but so was Farrell and Scully. I agree with you about having players of NRL standard, Hall, Briscoe would get NRL clubs easily but they wouldn't be close to the Kangaroos squad. Same with Jack Reed that plays there. They would just be decent but not top NRL players, like Carney was or Gleeson or Senior would have been, we haven't improved on that kind of player and some of our other centres being mentioned are not up to it.

Then just look at the halfbacks, the gulf there is a million miles. The only British halfback thats at their level is Briers, he would have won caps for the Kangaroos but he won't play for England.

The best we can hope for is something similar to the 2011 Four Nations or 2004 Tri Nations. Get a good win over NZ in there, and then make the final. The final will show us up as we are well behind them. NZ I think are better than us but they have a flakiness to them that the Aussies don't have, sometimes they don't turn up well prepared for international tournaments, other times they are red hot.

The types of players we will be using will be similar to those we had in 2011 and there was a big gap between us and the Aussies in that final, the Aussies were missing players too. We have struggled against the Exiles sometimes too which shows about where we are - good enough to compete against a random assortment of good NRL standard players but not good enough to beat the cream of the NRL.

That's not a slight on the England players though its just they will get creamed by the best, just like its not a slight on Man United to admit they would get ripped up by Barca.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach47No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2019Jan 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Lomax
Burgess
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Crabtree
Hock
Mossop
Sinfield

RankPostsTeam
International Star3084No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



England/GB have always been capable of beating Australia in one-off games, so if we get our first choice 17 versus theirs, then of course we have a chance.

The two big variables are team selection and injuries.

If we persist in playing Sinfield @ stand-off alongside Chase we're playing into Australia's hands. Likewise Ablett - shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, and Hock would be a useful squad player but the big teams will wind him up like a clock.

In terms of injuries if any one of Tomkins, Burgess, Graham or Westwood get sidelined or aren't fully fit we are really really gonna struggle ............ Australia can just call on their 2nd or 3rd choice with no major drama.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3648
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I am amazed that so many people have omitted Widdop. This could perhaps be due to not following the NRL though I guess.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16271
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: morrisseyisawire "England/GB have always been capable of beating Australia in one-off games, so if we get our first choice 17 versus theirs, then of course we have a chance.

The two big variables are team selection and injuries.

If we persist in playing Sinfield @ stand-off alongside Chase we're playing into Australia's hands. Likewise Ablett - shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, and Hock would be a useful squad player but the big teams will wind him up like a clock.

In terms of injuries if any one of Tomkins, Burgess, Graham or Westwood get sidelined or aren't fully fit we are really really gonna struggle ............ Australia can just call on their 2nd or 3rd choice with no major drama.'"


England have always been capable of beating Australia in one-off games when they aren't decisive, that's true.

In major finals or deciding Tests in a three Test series though, the Aussies always win. Because the Aussies have been so dominant for so long they have a tendency to coast in non-decisive games some times which gives the opposition a chance but when it comes to a must win game they are on the ball. You need to have someone like Benji Marshall in the team to unlock them in a big game. Given what happened last time I think there will be no prisoners in this World Cup final, whether it be us or NZ against them, there will be payback for 2008 and a big scoreline. When they want to be ruthless they will just pummel the opposition.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3486
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Warrington Wolf "I'm not sure about McIllorum (spelling??) making the 17. He is a loose cannon and one who can't keep his head. Discipline could be a major factor in how we progress in the competition late on.'"


McIllorum should be avoided...He works hard but has no real skills IMO plus he's niggly and the Aussie and Kiwis will target him..
Roby and Danny Houghton both better options...

SEB
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman13723
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2023Apr 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Of course whilst it would be great for England to win, it doesn't mean we can't enjoy the comp if they don't. One of my all time favourite games of RL is still Tonga v NZ from 1995 at Wilderspool. This time we have Samoa v NZ at the HJ which should be a great occasion plus a qtr final. Overall there are 14 nations playing in 28 games at 21 venues in 4 countries. Its going to be a fascinating event.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7605No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: MikeyWire "McIllorum should be avoided...He works hard but has no real skills IMO plus he's niggly and the Aussie and Kiwis will target him..
Roby and Danny Houghton both better options...'"


Hookers should be Roby and Daryl Clarke

RankPostsTeam
International Star2484No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Nov 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Roby and Burrow for me.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2972
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Minimum expectation for England has to be reaching the final. Though realistically, that's the maximum expectation too.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3648
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SEB "Of course whilst it would be great for England to win, it doesn't mean we can't enjoy the comp if they don't. One of my all time favourite games of RL is still Tonga v NZ from 1995 at Wilderspool. This time we have Samoa v NZ at the HJ which should be a great occasion plus a qtr final. Overall there are 14 nations playing in 28 games at 21 venues in 4 countries. Its going to be a fascinating event.'"

Well said that man. Got my interview about getting involved on Friday, looking forwards to it.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13234
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: sally cinnamon "I would love it if England had the best team in the world, like I love it in cricket and in RU when we did ten years ago. But there's no point kidding yourselves and talking them up if they go on and get hammered.

Think how most fans on here reacted when Sinfield got the Golden Boot. That should have been great for the game but you didn't get the non-Leeds fans celebrating it, they were all quick to say it was not deserved, the Aussies are all better.

I expect on these rlfans forums what we will see is a fair bit of empty defiance before the tournament "we've got a great squad, we're gonna show those cocky Aussies whats what", then the tournament will end in an abrupt halt with a hiding at the hands of one of Aus or NZ.

Then the fun will start

Much as i hate to say it cant really argue with this,i sat here lmao while reading it because we all know it to be true.

SEB
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman13723
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2023Apr 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Some very encouraging ticket sales news:
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... es-benefit

including:
- 35,000 tickets have now gone for the Rugby League World Cup Final
- We are clearly already attracting new fans to the game: 60% of ticket-buyers buyers for the tournament and 70% of our Wembley customers have never bought tickets for a major Rugby League match before.

Have you got yours yet?
Some very encouraging ticket sales news:
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... es-benefit

including:
- 35,000 tickets have now gone for the Rugby League World Cup Final
- We are clearly already attracting new fans to the game: 60% of ticket-buyers buyers for the tournament and 70% of our Wembley customers have never bought tickets for a major Rugby League match before.

Have you got yours yet?


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach20628
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Any info on the non heartland areas, SW England, East Midlands etc etc?

RankPostsTeam
International Star119No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Ganson's Optician "Well said that man. Got my interview about getting involved on Friday, looking forwards to it.'"


How was the interview? Had mine today. Might get to meet up as I said I could do the Halliwell game in selected.

157 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
157 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.0576171875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
16
25m
Film game
Boss Hog
5789
47m
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
Recent
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
Recent
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
196
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63280
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40814
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43s
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
15
50s
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
55s
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
58s
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
1m
New Kit
Wires71
71
1m
Rumours and signings v9
Big Steve
28905
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40814
2m
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
3m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
50
5m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
16
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +11,691 ↓-13080,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
16
25m
Film game
Boss Hog
5789
47m
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
Recent
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
Recent
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
196
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63280
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40814
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43s
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
15
50s
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
55s
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
58s
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
1m
New Kit
Wires71
71
1m
Rumours and signings v9
Big Steve
28905
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40814
2m
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
3m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
50
5m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
16
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!