You wanted Smith gone around that time too didn’t you? So yes, I guess you could say it was to do with the coaching side of things back then that were the issues if you want to be consistent in your criticisms of Smith from back then.

Yes I did. I saw we were drifting further away from winning a GF rather than moving towards it.

I wanted Smith to leave from 2017 onwards (7 years in the job, should have gone earlier really)

Price from October 2019 onwards (2 years in the job)

Powell has been in post 16 games.

And we've played well twice, but only won one of those games.

I wouldn't sack him by the way.

But, Smith won about 10 of his first 16, including a cup run. Powell won 3 in a row in February, then TWO since. It’s June.

#KissKamOut

Someone somewhere posted about smiths first season in charge)(09)

He got lots of breathing room during thst transition period as pre season had been ed up goodstyle by James lower and his boxer mate conditioner.

We were worlds apart in 2010

True. Compare the squad then to now though.

I don't think anyone is saying "Keep Powell" on the basis of the performances this year. They are doing so on the basis that they a) believe he is a good coach that plays good rugby b) is up against it with a poorly balanced squad c) is the first coach I can remember with the balls to question and try to change our culture. d) accept it will take more than 16 games to change things.

To my mind there is no harm in being patient to see what happens. We were not winning anything this season anyway and I don't believe there is a realistic possibility of relegation. Others may disagree and that is what makes the world go round.

Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Someone somewhere posted about smiths first season in charge)(09) He got lots of breathing room during thst transition period as pre season had been loved up goodstyle by James lower and his boxer mate conditioner. We were worlds apart in 2010'" People forget this game in early 2009. London 60 - 8 Wire. www.loverugbyleague.com/stats/ma ... on-wolves/ As Smith said at the time "As far as I am concerned we have hit the lowest point, but sometimes you have to reach that to start climbing again," "The players have to make a choice. They can either go and sulk or stick with me and try to rectify things. The scoreboard rarely lies and we were comfortably second-best today." We went on to win the Challenge Cup later that season.

Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Someone somewhere posted about smiths first season in charge)(09) He got lots of breathing room during thst transition period as pre season had been loved up goodstyle by James lower and his boxer mate conditioner. We were worlds apart in 2010'" People forget this game in early 2009. London 60 - 8 Wire. www.loverugbyleague.com/stats/ma ... on-wolves/ As Smith said at the time "As far as I am concerned we have hit the lowest point, but sometimes you have to reach that to start climbing again," "The players have to make a choice. They can either go and sulk or stick with me and try to rectify things. The scoreboard rarely lies and we were comfortably second-best today." We went on to win the Challenge Cup later that season.

The constant repetition of this may be doing wonders for your post count, but it isn’t doing much for your reputation.

Not particularly concerned about that chief tbh.

can we just take it as read that it’s all Karl’s fault in your view to save you from having to repeat yourself?

Take whatever you like mate.

In which case I prefer “chief” to “mate” but “Captain” is best of all.

No worries chief captain.