It feels odd doesn't it. I didn't feel ready for the season to start, and now I know why! Could NOT get myself up for the game at the weekend, almost didn't care less.

I was starting to feel guilty until i read some of the posts on here by who i see as the optimists on this board...

I started watching Wire in 1989 and Warrington R.L.F.C. has practically been my life since... There isn't many away grounds i haven't visited since then..

I've been to Wembley watched us in other finals and seen us win one trophy so i've been pretty success starved like many others....

The start of this season i made the decison not to renew my season ticket after what i saw as a shambolic end to last season and the Briers true fan comments (a player i rate)....
But i take no pleasure in making what i now see as the right decision...
I've seen dissappointing,lazy and downright embarrasing performances before under numerous coaches at Wire...

But i feel Saturdays pathetic effort was as bad as it gets....
The players aren't playing for the fans,and the fans have turned on the players...The coach simply is up to the job and even the little things around the club aren't up to standard..(The food kiosks running out,peoples reserved seats being sold)....

It really is a sad state of affairs...

There does seem to be quite a few people not
renewed season tickets know a few myself some
its financial but most are disillusioned, got a relative
who travels a similar distance to the author of the
topic he comes up from Gloucester, wonder if the
club are aware or give a toss about the people
who are making these extra efforts only to see
an apparent lack of effort/structure/organisation
when they get here.

In the same vein as another poster i support the
team no matter what, and who ever is in charge, i
take the view that its my chosen club and players
coach etc are temporary, but i do want something
positive to shout about , i think we've attracted
too many mercenarys, the whole start of the season
has got a feel of 2002 about it without the relegation
aspect,had a full pre season to work on problems
and we ship 66 points in 2 games,not good enough,
wont be going friday watch it on sky.

Thats so true mate, Look at Widnes aswell. Id hate it if wire ever got relegated

Scenario: If Wire put a 1st class performance on Friday and put 40 odd on Wakey would people change their minds?

I'm not joining that clique. I don't think I'm in the not Bothered Camp. I'm in the God Knows What I Think Camp. I can't see my enthusiasm coming back whilst the lie back and enjoy it jerk is in charge. But I'll still get really fed up if they lose on Friday (and play as badly again). 45 minutes vs St H, 10 minutes vs Catalans, 2 minutes vs Wakey?

The thing is, as disappointed as I am right now, I'll be glued to the TV on Friday, taking every tackle, bobbing up & down on the coach screaming 'get 'em off em ref' & appluading sarcasticly every decision that he gives for offside because you can't escape the fact that there's something inside you, something desperate for this chumps to roll their sleeves up, just click and realise their potential.

Which is about 75% of the reason I'll be going. The chance to visit the good pub is another reason. And maybe even first trip of the year to THE pub.

I've got a season ticket this year - at Leigh.

It was free for my 10 year old, £50 for my 16 year old and £140 for me. £190 for the 3 of us ,seating in the main stand at a cracking new stadium. The missus will pick and chose her games, it's unreserved seating so extra fans can come as and when and you can all sit together.

We'll pick and chose our Wire games this season. We walked away from the Hull KR friendly (early, after a crap 2nd half) and I said "that's why I wouldn't pay £550 for equivalent season tickets to watch that shower". I'd rather go and watch a bunch of enthusiastic young players working their nuts off to make their way in the game than supplement the pensions of some of our Big Time Charlies.

whay does for me is that I fall for it every year
every year I think it will be our year
never have lost faith so early quite frankly so rotten to the core the club is it will be a 3 year turnaround

I cannot travel to away matchs to watch this rubbish and although a season ticket holder for many years i am beginning to feel enough is enough....watch sky and pick matches is just about what this shower deserve ..I despair

Not so. The Bothered Brotherhood can't bring ourselves to moan, not really. We just sit around sighing, shaking our collective heads.

Then we watch Peep Show on DVD to cheer ourselves up.

First class idea! Maybe we could get Super Hands in the changing room to look after team diet and supplements.

I've already used the phrase 'sh*t munchers' this morning.

To whom do I apply for membership of the "Not as Bothered" Club?

I suspect this must be a little like Alcoholics Anonymous.
You feel that you're the only person in the world who feels the way you do, only to take comfort in the discovery that what you're experiencing is actually more commonplace than you dared hope.

The Saints collapse didn't hurt at all.
The Catalans debacle washed over me and I was fine a few minutes after the match.
As I've seen written by others on here, I have mixed feelings over whether I want the team to do well at Wakefield as that will only prolong the appalling decision to make Lowes the Head Coach.

I am grateful to Simon Moran and his involvement with the club.
I believe Andy Gatcliffe to be a more than able Chief Executive.
I even have no gripe with Doug Hoyle's role within the club.
But to have an unproven, inexperienced and ill-disciplined Head Coach was a huge and monumental mistake.

By the way, I'll still hold this viewpoint when we convincingly beat Leeds next week!

I share your view in bold. But, to go back to the irony theme, I belive this to be a tragic irony. In that we believe results will only pick up when results are not forthcoming!

For me Saints games in particular, but almost all games nowadays are like playing the lottery. I buy a ticket in the hope that I will win. I tell everyone what I will do when I do win. But when the numbers come out and I'm still poor I'm not at all surprised or upset about it, I just look forward to buying another ticket the following week!

JWP wrote: The thing is, as disappointed as I am right now, I'll be glued to the TV on Friday, taking every tackle, bobbing up & down on the coach screaming 'get 'em off em ref' & appluading sarcasticly every decision that he gives for offside because you can't escape the fact that there's something inside you, something desperate for this chumps to roll their sleeves up, just click and realise their potential.

Bobbing up and down on the coach?................wont Mrs JWP have something to say about that?

She'll be sat there, looking at me when we're letting the ball go out from a restart, saying "Your going to have a heart attack, calm down. I've been telling you for years that they are crap."

At this point, I'll advise her of her options :

a) Go upstairs and watch 'How to look good naked'.
b) Take all the remotes upstairs, and lock the doors, as I can't be held responsible for what I may do to them if we concede again.
c) Please be quiet, it's not productive. I'd then advise her that her negative energy may well be transmitting to the players.

I'll never forget Richard Marshall telling me I was too vocal and enthusiastic when I was coaching a team at a RU event. Funnily enough said team went on to be Cheshire champions.

He must have been sitting next to Lowes too long.

Yes but being in yorkshire you are loyal these lot are like vultures. Lets face it most of them wouldnt have got as far as the penines had they not gone to watch matches

"Vultures"? "Trumped up Trumps"? However next will you refer to a Warrington supporter?

YAWK SHER
YAWK SHER
YAWK SHER!

I don't get it? does it mean that I should go to Yorkshire for something other than an away game? Confused!

It's that big chip on their shoulders about Lancashire. Ignore him.