I think maybe the secret of Saint's runaway form is that they have got rid of Gardner. Under Clarke we were much fitter. Luckily we have a big enough cushion to avoid a relegation dogfight which i think we could lose.

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The players were all in Greece and Malaga last week after the Salford defeat so that wouldn't surprise me.

Edited for accuracy, and our second rowers playing like Olivia Newton John

So are we going to start asking questions of Price or not?

The style of rugby is the most boring in the league. I wouldn't mind that much if it actually won games but it clearly doesn't and to persist with the same team is ridiculous. We'll soon find out if Price is good enough.

This 'style' of rugby is clearly based towards trophy winning. He has to win at least one this season or he can go for me. There's been no improvements in fact regression and wasting a season waiting around for a man with a seriously dicky shoulder doesn't cut it for a club with our resources.

If we lose next week, he'll be on thin ice I think.

Although our performances have certainly regressed, has our actual capability also regressed, or are we just being a little smarter than previous in targeting our matches.
If I were a Wire player the upcoming semi final would have been at the back of my mind and therefore would certainly be tempted to hold back a bit and then throw the kitchen sink in the semi.
It’s human nature, I’ve done it myself in my football days.
I am sure that all them Wire players will badly want to return to Wembley if nothing more than to erase the memory of last years debacle against Catalan, put the record straight with the fans.

I don't understand where Price finds the belief that the style of rugby we have played for most of his tenure willl bring results.

We don't have several hard yards props like Catalan, Hull or Saints
We don't have a punishing kicking game that pins teams back until they sucumb
We don't have aggressive defensive line speed

All of those are needed to make a success of Aussie style grind the opposition down tactics.

What we do have is a good offload game, though I haven't seen it for a few months
What we do have is one of the top two hookers in the comp who can destroy teams via a quick ptb
What do we do have are two prolific wingers
What we do have is a genuinely dangerous stand-off

So lets get back to playing to our strengths and picking a team capable of doing that.

I think we have to.
He came in with a clean slate, with new signings, and he got to two finals, both of which we lost. So, without the British disease of celebrating getting to finals and having heroic defeats, he achieved nothing in his first season.

9 months on, yes, we're in a CCSF, but we're in very poor form, he's selecting players who are so far away from the standard required, it's ridiculous. Currie has been back for 4 months, yet he still looks like a YTS lad, following round his mentor. Don't get me started on Patton, and a couple of others. These players are so far away from deserving a shirt, yet they get picked without fail. Drop them, and promote from the youth, or take another risk, and play someone out of position. To continue playing these failing individuals, is a recipe for disaster.

So yes, the blame is fairly and squarely at Price's door. Or should I say sandpit. Because that's where his head is currently buried (apart from a certain orifice).

If we were thinking about the semi then it was the perfect chance to try a few changes. Livett and Johnson in. Shove King in the second row and drop/rest one of Currie/Hughes and give Burrell a run out.

Treatment of some players seems.... strange shall we say.....

Agreed that Westwod must be in the 17, and I would have had Atkins in place of Toby King - but oh no - he's been told he can have an Op as he won't be playing for us again (that's me sumizing rather than it being based on fact).

Price is on very thin ice - and I have never been one to call for heads to roll (I never called for PC and TS heads).
I'd love to understand what Prices plans are going forward. He simply can't pick that 17 for Hull.

Currently the Bolton weather forecast for next Saturday is 22 deg, with gentle breeze, so could be a case of who tires first loses.