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| Quote: matt6169 "It was a great win, but lets not kids ourselves too much -[i we scored 3 quick tries that had nothing to do with half backs[/i - two were directly off the back of Saints mistakes, and one was down to a great offload by Russell. Had those mistakes not happened, we would still of been 14-12 down. They did happen, and suddenly we're 16 points ahead.
Patton, Livett, Gidley, Ratchford - I don't care - the one clear thing is though - Brown should NOT get back in that team!! He will, but he shouldn't!!!
Someone tell me (because I can't be bothered)
Maybe so, but our first try [iwas [/ifrom a clever short pass by Patton, and Gidley had effectively stepped into the half-back space for his equally good pass to Cooper.
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| Very pleased for Morgan. He had a stinker against Saints in the semi last year and was hauled off. He came back this time and was sensational. Hats off to him.
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| With our forwards in better shape, I have no issue with Brown at hb. Our pack has been poor and made everyone look pants. You can't make a silk purse from a sows ear.
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| Quote: matt6169 "It was a great win, but lets not kids ourselves too much - we scored 3 quick tries that had nothing to do with half backs - two were directly off the back of Saints mistakes, and one was down to a great offload by Russell. Had those mistakes not happened, we would still of been 14-12 down. They did happen, and suddenly we're 16 points ahead.
Patton, Livett, Gidley, Ratchford - I don't care - the one clear thing is though - Brown should NOT get back in that team!! He will, but he shouldn't!!!
Someone tell me (because I can't be bothered)
Kevin Brown has 8 starts with 1 win only (against Wakefield)
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| How many of those games we lost with Brown in the starting line up would we have won without him?
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| Sounds like Brown had a pretty good game for England, with a couple of assists.
Maybe someone who watched can fill us in, but a fit and in form Brown would still make my 17 particularly in view of the confidence that visibly surged through the team last night, and the way the forwards imposed themselves.
Incidentally, I agree with the general view that Smiths introduction changed the game. Dwyer now third choice hooker, fourth if you count Gidley.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "How many of those games we lost with Brown in the starting line up would we have won without him?'"
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| Brown had a decent game for England. He was heavily involved in three tries. He's a very good passer of the ball. I think we are being over critical (as we often are on this forum about our own players). He's been out injured and most of the team have been playing badly. He'll play for us next week.
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| Gidley needs a rest so use the Widnes game, Livett shouldnt start every game he needs to develop but I thought Patton was poor again maybe he needs a rest Brown and Livett in the halvesin the next game
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| Rest Gidley in the CC?
Wt..!
Take a gamble in our biggest game?
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| If he needs a rest....he can have one vs Wigan.
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| I think a lot depends on if Daryl Clark is fit.
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| Quote: Wiredeano "Gidley needs a rest so use the Widnes game, Livett shouldnt start every game he needs to develop but I thought Patton was poor again maybe he needs a rest Brown and Livett in the halvesin the next game'"
"Patton was poor again", 2 try assists and a few kicks that were spilled in their 10m zone. he put 3 kicks deep into the corner or over the touchline to control the game in the last 10mins. What has a player got to do get some praise. I am sure that people don't actually watch these games.
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| Patton has been cack for 3-4 games now. Think he's a bit like Matty Smith, fantastic kicking game but will never take a game by the scruff of it's neck and dominate. Patton does have strapping all up his thigh so perhaps he may need a sit down anyway this week and next. I would keep Livett where he is after that performance. Brown has just as good a kicking game as Patton when on the front foot so I'd be inclined to put him back in. Leave Gidley at fullback, have Ratchford on the bench, not sure on the status of Clark but those two interchanging could be killer.
Gidley
Russell, Evans, Atkins, Lineham
Brown, Livett
Hill, Clark, Sims
Julien, Westerman
G. King
Ratchford, Philbin
Cooper, Westwood
No Clark then Ratch and Smith to alternate.
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