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Quote: Mini Rogue "Well clearly, the players know more than what you do.'"


They probably do, seeing as I never voted, not being a player. d040.gif

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I can't see how "The more Platent Cheating Tomkins" (saing much) got ahead of our Super Ben.

I'd struggle to see how many would get ahead of Super Ben but him?? Nah.

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Hopefully the players will do the right thing.........

Have the RFL got Gareth Raynor counting the votes!!

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There's a lot of bias on here saying Westwood or King should be ahead of Tomkins.

I only attended one Wigan match this season and they lost that (V us at their gaff) so I can't comment much on their players over the course of the season, but they finished top of the pile so if Tomkins played a huge role in that then he is understandably shortlisted ahead of players in a team that finished third.

Richards stands out a mile because his points scoring is there for all to see, but the only people whose opinions on Wigan players really count are the people who watch them week in week out and those who have played against them. I doubt that is anyone on here.

We're biased to Warrington players because we see what they're doing every week so the likes of Westwood and King stand out for us more than they would to a Wigan fan who watches Tomkins every week.

Whoever wins Man of Steel will deserve it and I hope it's Morley.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "There's a lot of bias on here saying Westwood or King should be ahead of Tomkins.

I only attended one Wigan match this season and they lost that (V us at their gaff) so I can't comment much on their players over the course of the season, but they finished top of the pile so if Tomkins played a huge role in that then he is understandably shortlisted ahead of players in a team that finished third.

Richards stands out a mile because his points scoring is there for all to see, but the only people whose opinions on Wigan players really count are the people who watch them week in week out and those who have played against them. I doubt that is anyone on here.

We're biased to Warrington players because we see what they're doing every week so the likes of Westwood and King stand out for us more than they would to a Wigan fan who watches Tomkins every week.

Whoever wins Man of Steel will deserve it and I hope it's Morley.'"


Sam is a poor fullback.

I think you could ask a Pie and they'd say that.

He has played there often and so he was't doing his job correcty.

Plus he's a niggly, cheating S.O.B.

A million wonder tries wouldn't make up for those two points. I think there was a mistake made in him being shortlisted.

I suggested Westwood cause i know he has an amazing season and his numerous awards and selection in the SL Dream team testifies to that. Stand out good guy and great player.

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Quote: jdrocket "Sam is a poor fullback.

I think you could ask a Pie and they'd say that.

He has played there often and so he was't doing his job correcty.

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Where have you got this from?

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Quote: jdrocket "Sam is a poor fullback.

I think you could ask a Pie and they'd say that.
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You couldn't.

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Quote: ABP' "You couldn't.'"


I take it back then. Sorry.

I'm not one to comment on his form but a lot of hear say had told me the opposite.

I just googled "Sam Tomkins Fullback"

number two

A good stand off? Yes. A good Fullback? No.

Again i haven't seen him every match

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Quote: jdrocket "I take it back then. Sorry.

I'm not one to comment on his form but a lot of hear say had told me the opposite.'"



Sams been fantastic at fullback. It stops teams being able to mark him out of the game as he can pop up anywhere, as well as enabling him to run from deep.

He's torn teams apart single handedly this season (Hull KR).

I think the only reason you haven't seen Wigan fans putting him up there for MOS is because in a few peoples eyes his impact this season has been reduced as he's not been the only stand out player (playing in a good team rather than a pants one for example).

I think he's matured a lot this year, last year his main contribution was tries, this year he's contributed tries, assists and a much more all round game. I think he's rightfully nominated.

Westwood has had a quality season yes, but Sam has been fantastic most weeks and is a massive part of the reason why we topped the table. Full deserves to be nominated.

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I don't agree with Tomkins or Richards for MoS simply because I am an old RL fan who thinks MoS should really go to a forward where the hard graft is. However, I don't play the game professionally so I tip my hat to those who put their bodies on the line week in and week out & trust their judgement as to the Top 3 competitors in SL this season.

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Sam Tomkins is an amazing talent, one that I'd have at Wire in the blink of an eye. I hope Moz gets it but I couldn't complain if one of the Wigan players did.

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Quote: serge le forge "Sam Tomkins is an amazing talent, one that I'd have at Wire in the blink of an eye. I hope Moz gets it but I couldn't complain if one of the Wigan players did.'"


Think thats how I feel, want Sam or Pat to get it, but wouldn't begrudge Morley it. The mans a machine.

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ST has had a brilliant year and would be a worthy winner. I would argue he'd had a bigger role in Wigan's good league season that Pat Richards has and would therefore be ahead of him in the running for MoS. However Richards clearly gets all the headlines for his pointscoring and has had a brilliant year so it wouldn't be a surprise to see him win. Morley has had another great year and is well-respected by all his oponents in the game due to being such a tough, hard and honest player and so it wouldn't be a surprise to see him walk away with the award either. All in all, a worthy 3 man shortlist i'd have thought.

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agree with richards..great player who`s scoring record speaks volumes..as for tomkins no way..good player but not a candidate for m.o.s..how westwood has not got a mention is just staggering,but then again he does`nt play for that lot...but well done mozza nearly got it last season hopefully one better this season

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Honestly, do you think Adrian Morley has had a better season than Jamie Peacock or James Graham?

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