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Quote: OnTheBeach "Mikaele is a big loss mate.

I hope the club haven’t spunked his salary on George and Paul.'"

We've got money one side to bring in John and ringo

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Quote: sir adrian morley "Don't blame the video ref for us having one bad game..or do you really think we were the better team and deserved to win if so you are are cuckoo..we were 2nd best all over the park tonight..accept it like a grown up..'"


We didn't deserve the win. But to lose by 7 points with 3 dubious video ref decisions. Wigan 2nd try which was never in control when grounding. Then both warringtons tries in the last 5 minutes. Both of which should have been a try in my opinion. Would have turned the game and would have given us the win.

We contributed to the loss. But the sticking point in many peoples view. Not just mine. A few on here. And many in the stands. (Which wilkin acknowledged as a reasonable view) was them last 5 minutes.

With what we had on show tonight. I'm more than happy with how we came out of that match. I thought we were light in the pack. It turned out to be true. We were dominated for a good 75 minutes of a 80 minute match. And throughout it all. With everything thrown at us. Wigan constant attack. And defence. (We will ignore the 3 high shots at the start of the match) and consistency in slowing the play at the ruck down. (How long does the ref want to allow Wigan to lie on the man. They may as well get a room with how long the ref allowed it) Wigan should be extreamly relieved to come away with the win, and we can come out of it in a positive way. Speed the game up like we tried too and successfully did 4 times. We opened Wigan up and scored a try and should have had another 2/3.

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2 try’s disallowed were they given we won, my point being however tough the game was we were not massively out of it. Saints still won’t be fancying us next week, beat them then a break and then smash Wakefield, lose that then maybe you can have concerns.

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Quote: jonh "Go on then, let’s hear what he got wrong in your opinion.'"


You're trolling now??? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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That comedy penalty under the sticks shouldn't be overlooked in the overall analysis, given for absolutely all and gave Wigan a nice 6-point cushion.

Lessons we should learn:
- Kasiano is not a starting prop. If so many players have been banned or injured that Kasiano has to be a starting prop, we are in trouble.
- Matautia needs to re-learn his technique for standing up and playing the ball. Two unforced drops ffs.
- Only go wide off a decent play the ball. In the first half we were getting walloped, but then chucking it wide in our 20 made it worse. Trust in your go-forward and the chances will come. Even tonight they did: in the last 10 minutes Wigan's defensive line wilted quite rapidly but we didn't take advantage.
- If you've got forwards on the bench, use them. Not sure how many minutes Green played but it wasn't enough. Sure you protect a young lad but the players on the field were losing the battle, he needed to be on for longer.

I couldn't really work out our bench strategy tonight, none of it seemed to work. Did Thewlis get injured?

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "You're trolling now???
It's OK dita. I'll bite on this one.

1st one. Wigan 2nd try. No control over the grounding.
2nd one. Warrington 1st no try. Explain how Vaughan touched the ball when the ball went back. Either Vaughan tipped the ball back. Or the Wigan player touched the ball forward. Both would be play on and a try. The ball was travelling backwards. In all replays.
3rd one. Words fail me on that last no try. I don't even know what was wrong with it.

There's 3.

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Quote: jonh "What a silly post.'"

O'neal offside for his try, take 6 off Wigan score, minikin try given add 6 to Warrington score (if we convert the try) Warrington 12 Wigan 5, what is silly about that?

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Just on the video ref decisions, we look silly by claiming the Drinkwater 'no try'. That clearly went forward off Vaughan into the Wigan player.

The other two decisions were outrageous.

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Quote: just_browny "Just on the video ref decisions, we look silly by claiming the Drinkwater 'no try'. That clearly went forward off Vaughan into the Wigan player.

The other two decisions were outrageous.'"

Agreed, Vaughan one was correct

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Quote: just_browny "Just on the video ref decisions, we look silly by claiming the Drinkwater 'no try'. That clearly went forward off Vaughan into the Wigan player.

The other two decisions were outrageous.'"


Agreed. The Drinkwater one is not an issue for me. Looked a relatively clear knock on live. Slowed down you can maybe have an argument on the trajectory of the ball off Vaughan's hand, but not enough to be able to give it.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "icon_lol.gif My god I apologise if I was rude..can see your point but we were bobbins tonight.better team won..accept it may be after a good night's sleep and your nappy changed we sort of agree on things next week..

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Quote: gary numan "O'neal offside for his try, take 6 off Wigan score, minikin try given add 6 to Warrington score (if we convert the try) Warrington 12 Wigan 5, what is silly about that?'"


Because O’Neil wasn’t offside and Minikin did drop the ball.

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Quote: wire2004 "It's OK dita. I'll bite on this one.

1st one. Wigan 2nd try. No control over the grounding.
2nd one. Warrington 1st no try. Explain how Vaughan touched the ball when the ball went back. Either Vaughan tipped the ball back. Or the Wigan player touched the ball forward. Both would be play on and a try. The ball was travelling backwards. In all replays.
3rd one. Words fail me on that last no try. I don't even know what was wrong with it.

There's 3.'"


1. Clearly was grounded. Main issue was potential offside but having watched it back he wasn’t.

2. I’m not sure how you can claim Vaughn didn’t touch it. Very odd.

3. Ref was in a great position and thought there was separation.
Video ref agreed.

If it goes up as a try it gets given. If it doesn’t it doesn’t. I personally don’t think he had control but it was only fractions of a second but that’s how big games are won and lost…not that it would have made a difference anyway.

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In addition to the points mentioned, a big one for me, especially against Wigan, is adapting our lie on time at the ruck. If the ref isn't penalising prolonged lying on, then we need to lengthen our lying on time to match.

We'll be fine though and as others have said, we did well to compete given our lack of props.

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Referee and video ref were poor but we were worse. Wigan wanted it more and that’s alarming. Powell isn’t at fault either, why is he picking two wingers on the bench? I know Jamie Redecliffe pretty well and he doesn’t take a backwards step, runs hard and tackles hard so not sure why he wasn’t on the bench. Powell got it wrong tonight and we need a big reaction next Thursday.

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