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| Quote: Barbed Wire "In principle I agree. But it depends who got appointed to replace him.
Let’s not kid ourselves that Powell is a beacon of hope and success, he’s hardly a man of notoriety. One hub cap and a day out on the big stage doesn’t make you Craig Bellamy.
It could (could, not will) get worse before it gets better.'"
Whoever we'd have got would have been an improvement IMO. I mean if the coach had a couple of dummy runners and back rowers running through gaps it would have already been an improvement on watching a Steve Price team attack.
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| Having 'worked' with all 3 coaches in the not too distance past i can't tell you who is the best but i certainly can tell you which one has the highest work ethic, determination, attention to detail and man management and that isn't your current or future coach. Ian Watson is head and shoulders above any other coach in Super League in those regards, your current man is way down the list for those.
As for last night i think you were the victims of the 'crowds back' where the pressure on you being the 1st home fans in front of a live tv audience could have possibly affected your players into being a bit more nervous and trying too hard to get a win, i also think your coaching staff took Hudds too lightly with the positional changes which seemed to be a choice thing, apart from Hughes missing, rather than enforced, maybe he thought they were easybeats and he could try new things against them?
To be fair Huddersfield were very good and we are all now seeing just how good a coach Ian is now his charges have got used to his ideas etc.
You lot will be fine you have some good players in there, you also have a fully fit and match fit Greg Inglis to come yet.
you were beaten by probably a better side who will beat better ones than you.
Hope you enjoyed being back too.
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| The disappointing thing is we have a better team than that. Breaking the 2 basic rules of rugby yesterday was a blatant disregard of our intelligence and patience. Waiting all this time to be dished up a foolish coaching error/s after the warning of such stupidity was all on show vs Hull KR. Price did the same utter dumb mistake again, and probably worse.
It is completely inexcusable to do this after all the fans have done with gifts and time to the club. It’s sackable imo.
Price has the nal that eclipse all other clubs in SL and he seems stubbornly dumb-fast on what to do with them.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I would just play Hughes when he returns at right centre all season. That edge is a revolving door. Every team knows it now.'"
Perhaps last night we were missing some of the 'nothing' that many people accuse Jack Hughes of bringing to the team.
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| Quote: The Speculator "Perhaps last night we were missing some of the 'nothing' that many people accuse Jack Hughes of bringing to the team.'"
I think tackling is an essential criteria for a second row forward. Not sure Hughes had a unique ability in that regard. The problem, for me, was that each of those positions have been changed over the past 4 weeks. Charnley, unnecessarily shifted to the left, which brought in Mamo, ultimately Thewlis. The centre spot has been King, Ratchford and Mamo. Austin is back in vogue at 6, but was Ratchford recently. The only mainstay comes out, only to be replaced by a left centre... bizarrely. No continuity, no forward planning.
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| Was Price simply guilty of trying too hard with our back line? He's got to play GI, and then reward Mamo, encourage Thewlis and keep Lineham waiting on the naughty step. I get that King to SR wasn't universally popular, then there is the Ratchford/Austin conundrum......I didn't think that Austin played that bad TBH, not exactly Steve but definitely not Tracy.
Interesting picks next week
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| As well as the right side has been doing since we settled on mamo and thewlis, them, plus king going up against Edwards, who's a big aggressive back rower, is a mismatch.
Him against king is a mismatch, and shows the downside of king in the 2nd row.
If westwood had been playing last night, Edwards would have got a couple of cracks early on, letting him know its not gonna be easy, and put him in the red mist.
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| For me, it’s time to go back to the original plan. We’re at just over 50% win rate which, given the level of opposition we’ve faced, is a bit behind par, but we have time to recover it.
It’s not throwing the baby out with the bath water, but King is the best left centre we have, Ratchford the best fullback, Austin and Widdop the best pivots. Get them in those fixed in those positions. That would naturally default to some sort of shape, albeit lopsided to the more dangerous left.
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| i'd dispute the austin bit, we were looking a bit better without him in the team
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "i'd dispute the austin bit, we were looking a bit better without him in the team'"
I think that's why I called it a conundrum, we might be better balanced without him and it's coincided with an upturn in Widdop's form BUT on an individual basis last night Austin was Ok IMO.
Apart from starting a game on -20, Huddersfield had the 'rub of the green' and probably deservedly as they were expansive but every offload that went to ground was always back or flat never forward,
They deserved the win but there was a kick from Sezer that summed up our night, flew off the side of his boot bounced a foot in he didn't have a clue could have easily ended up 5 rows back in the South Stand. Then there was Edwards doing his Beth Tweddle which took all the momentum away from us. GRRR!!!
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| Watching the game last night was like watching the best years under Smith with flowing length of the field attack, but sadly it was Huddersfield who showed us what we can't seem to do these days.
Our attack is generally woeful close to the line without the usual set ending of a kick to the in-goal & our main option last night was a spate of long range up & unders off Austin.
Watson surely does have our number.
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "i'd dispute the austin bit, we were looking a bit better without him in the team'"
True he hasn’t been on top form, I have been as critical as any of him, but he is a genuine running threat. Which would be handy if there were any other attacking threats around him to take defenders away from him. Realistically, he needs an inside and outside option on every play, and that “sweep” play from Ratchford out the back. That amount of bodies in motion, if they all ran with purpose, would create enough space for him to get over the line, or like last night, give the outside men room. Inglis is the perfect foil for that, big body who attracts defenders, Austin can then run as much as he can.
The better attacking side is the left, Widdop is sharp, Currie is a genuine threat with a pass/kick/offload and King is big and quick with a decent fend. That is where the points should come. I just wish Price would stop messing around with it. We just need the right to a) not concede b) make meters coming away from our line c) chip in with a few points when the left isn’t successful.
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| If we had read that team days ago most of the people on here would he if the opinion it's a winning side and price is playing people based on performances.
It was doomed from the selection too many changes with too little time to adjust. If there was a change to be made to accommodate ratchford it should hs e been memo to miss out and inglis to centre. We don't need to be moving a centre to the back row when we have more than enough cover there.
Our first half was one to forget poor defence attack communication and effort !!!! Seconf half we played better but still blew our chances. This bunch of players cannot change the momentum of a game and really struggle when it swings away from us, I don't put this on price as it was the same towards the end if Smith's time with us.
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| We're guilty of trying to shoehorn Inglis into the starting 13 bit plenty of people on here have been saying that King and Currie is our best second row combination and was a major factor in our mid-term successes last year.
I thought Austin did ok last night but I'd have stuck with the team as was and maybe put Austin on the bench.
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| Happened to be seated one row in front of directors last night. All were present as well as Karl Fitzpatrick. If they were concerned with our 1st half performance they hid it well. Don’t know what was being said in box at halftime.
As for the game Aidan Sezer for me is a standout old school half back who we should be trying to entice. Head and shoulders the most skilful player on the pitch. Has a free role and doesn’t stick to structures. Follows every play the ball and demands the ball when he see gaps that can be exploited.
A trip to the bookies for me. If he stays fit he won’t be far off Man of Steel.
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