Because I am trying to decipher between theory and reality.

If Warrington or Hull win it, for the first time, what will actually happen to realistically change the games profile?

I think it's more for the credibility of the competition. The salary cap is completely failing to deliver any diversity or "even playing field" whilst at the same time crippling the wealthier clubs and diluting quality. It's also failed to stop clubs going bankrupt.

I don't think it will turn around the fortunes of RL though. I fear RL is moribund without the involvement of the NRL.

In which case to say my post is untruthful, is utter bollox.

I’ll give you a piece of advice, and you’re free to do with it as you wish…

Bookies trust stats because they have too. And yes the longer the stats are, the more reliable they become.
But bookies also lose, otherwise we wouldn’t use them.
And they lose because a times the stats breakdown.

The stats now show Warrington with greater odds, but only in the last month.
Wire have gone against the stats grain and lost a couple of games in the last month, that they really ought to have won, and where heavy odds on to do so.
Those 2 games have turned the stats on its head.

Now what bookies hate, is someone having a little bit of knowledge.
There are reasons why Warrington got beaten.
Warrington playing disadvantage in numbers. Resting players, key players, Dufty, out injured, with a view to be ready soon.

In addition Wire played 2 big derby games back to back, and one with disadvantaged in numbers and won them big, but found themselves fatigued 6 days later against a fresh KR team.
These are all very sound reasons to Warrington failing v KR and in the last month.
Those circumstances twist the form guide/stats to make Wire look the lest best out of the top 3. We are not.

Those little bits of knowledge is what makes someone who isn’t close enough to the club, to only trust the stats.
It’s how gamblers at the bookies lose their money.
It’s called “paper form”…and bookies love it!!

I know that Warrington at near full strength, that don’t find themselves playing a man down, will easily beat Hull KR, and will edge Wigan.

I trust what I have seen, not what the form guide says.
I hope you will not lose too much money on Hull KR, but you will lose, and you can take that to the bank.

Vast majority of people in the bookies lose money for a pastime or, at the other end, have a gambling addiction/dependancy. It's why Fred Done is a billionaire and why regular punters are not.

If Wire edge Wigan with such certainty. What happened at Wembley?

Wigan are the team most likely to win the GF in my view.

I respect your view.

In my opinion we lost at Wembley not because Wigan were better team finite, but because they were the least poorest on the day.

Unknown to me on the day of Wembley…
Warrington we’re always going to lose that game, because simply Sam Burgess made to one mistake you should never do at Wembley… he played Fitzgibbon knowing he was injured.

So the point where ability meets with preparation was ripped up before we’d even kicked a ball.
I hope Sam has learnt a big lesson.

If I had a worry, it’s that Sam may make the same mistake in a GF and play another injured player. That’s the only way I can see us losing the GF.

You know that Warrington will easily beat Hull KR, edge Wigan but you only give them an equal chance of winning the grand final as Hull KR and Wigan?

First you say Hull KR, Wigan and Warrington each have an equal chance of winning the grand final, which clearly isn't true, and now you say this.

What a load of waffle

Duckie, based on your admirable confidence, how much have you staked on Wire winning the GF and at what odds?

Why does anyone argue with RD? Ive never known him be *wrong about anything Rugby related.

*(should read “admit to being wrong”)

Quote: Captain Hook "Why does anyone argue with RD? Ive never known him be *wrong about anything Rugby related. *(should read “admit to being wrong”)'" i aliken it to 'steiner math' https://youtu.be/msDuNZyYAIQ?si=BsNPBck3XmDXfvxq

Quote: Captain Hook "Why does anyone argue with RD? Ive never known him be *wrong about anything Rugby related. *(should read “admit to being wrong”)'" i aliken it to 'steiner math' https://youtu.be/msDuNZyYAIQ?si=BsNPBck3XmDXfvxq

Never made a bet on RL in my life, but Duckie has almost persuaded me to back us to win the Grand Final this year.

I need help!!!

was it last year we were going to win everything or the year before…or both?

I thought attention seeking days were long past.