If it’s Cats v Wigan and this grinning clown is reffing, with all the extra “work” on the tackled player we might be lucky to see 10 sets in each half.

In terms of due diligence where are we with Williams? I know it’s a shallow pool so when someone like Williams becomes available we HAVE to act and fair enough. Yet this is a man who was a new father, already won the GF and has proven himself in the NRL…along with having no ties to our club. We shouldn’t need a CEO to assess motivation (Currie/Philbin/Williams newish fathers long contracts etc) we need a superb coach to instil motivation by any method.

I mention new fathers by the fact that it either motivates players or makes them seek comfort…for us the latter seems to be prevalent.

No-one is setting standards. Nobody is stepping up and demand the best at all times. There's not one skipper behind the sticks lecturing our players as the opposition line up a kick.

They're all wet farts.

This isn’t a Chambers problem, he’s had 5 days. It’s a problem of the gutless board who wasted a 2 week break to see what happened against Wakefield, as if it would change anything.

The right call, timing wise, was to use that period of 2 games in 4 weeks, to refresh and refocus. Instead we have exactly half of that and a drumming from Wakefield to boot.

Chambers isn’t the man forever, everyone including he himself have acknowledged that. But the wreckless indecision and apathy could see another year where we don’t even get a go at the play offs, which js unforgivable given the resources this club has afforded to them.

The leadership is an absolute s hitshow. Top to bottom.

Ratchford is our captain say no more, so comfortable, so lacking in hunger and so deludedly entitled.

McNamara clearly not missing any of these!

Not read much of this thread but from what I saw I thought Currie did an awful lot of work - be interesting to see how many tackles he put in - and was worth being voted the Wire mom.
Vaughan also put a good stint in and Makaele gave us a lift.
Kasiano was poor - too many basic mistakes but I was impressed by his turn of speed at the end of the match to stop them scoring a try.

We made far too many basic errors to win. Cut those out and we give ourselves chance.

Ref made some blunders and allowed far too much lieing on / hands-in the ruck.

Cats deserved it through our frailties.

Powell made ratchford our CAPTAIN! Above everything else, that was the worse thing he did. Yes, it was worse than signing dudson!

Our first choice centres have a combined ago of 68-70 i think. Nice one Daryl

Not good enough - Dudson, Kasiano, Drinkwater, Ratchford, Matautia, Dufty and Walker as our main number nine is a big worry.

Would any of our rabble get In saints or cats or even Wigan's team at this moment..may be a couple..but we carry em..face it we are in free fall..and it starts at the top

I have never seen a fullback be out of position/missing as much as Dufty. There's a reason he didn't make it in the NRL, it's the same as the reason he's poor for us, he just couldn't be 4rsed!

Totally agree. I remember him being interviewed on tv a month or so back saying that the team needed to defend better, and yes he was right. However, he was one of the main culprits including one ridiculously poor turnstile effort.

Even got called out on Sky at the end, so it’s not just us fickle fans.

I honestly think players who come here perceive us as the equivalent of a Major League Soccer Club where players can get well paid and wind down their careers. If they don't arrive with that mindset, they soon change into the Warrington Wolves Status Quo.

I'm worried about Williams as well who looked totally exasperated in that interview. Quality players have been arriving here for years and most get progressively worse during their stay with few maintaining their form.

We seem to have all the gear but no idea.