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Quote: Rogues Gallery "No, you can steal the ball in the tackle over the try line. However I think Dwyer then went into touch so it would have been Wire ball.'"


I believe the correct restart would be a penalty to the attacking team if it was deemed a ball steal? But as you mention, the penalty try awarded for a ball steal was dropped some time ago.

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Quote: Alffi_7 "I believe the correct restart would be a penalty to the attacking team if it was deemed a ball steal? But as you mention, the penalty try awarded for a ball steal was dropped some time ago.'"


Yeah that's right.

It happened right in front of us and in real time you give a try everyday of the week. Hence it goes up to the video ref as a try. Rules are the video ref then has to have conclusive proof that it wasn't a try to overturn the decision. I watched it back last night and there is no conclusive proof as the ball disappears from sight with players falling down on it. Even now on balance having seen it live and then on video I'd say its likely to have been grounded in the initial dropping to the deck. Just because Dwyer gets up with ball in his hands means nothing.

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I'm on a tour of the Portugese Sherry Vineyards at the moment to top up supplies which took a hammering during the cup semi, so I had to listen in on GMR.

First off, great two points and nice to see Williams get the winning kick - he's done us to death a few times with his boot so nice to be on the right side.

However, the team is really making it hard for themselves. Yes, mitigating circumstances last night with a short turnaround but our first half completion rate in the first half of the Wigan game was equally poor.

We need to establish a platform before we start offload-a-thons and risky passes though with the talent in that team, when it comes off they look great. Powell will be salivating.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "I'm on a tour of the Portugese Sherry Vineyards at the moment to top up supplies which took a hammering during the cup semi, so I had to listen in on GMR.

First off, great two points and nice to see Williams get the winning kick - he's done us to death a few times with his boot so nice to be on the right side.

However, the team is really making it hard for themselves. Yes, mitigating circumstances last night with a short turnaround but our first half completion rate in the first half of the Wigan game was equally poor.

We need to establish a platform before we start offload-a-thons and risky passes though with the talent in that team, when it comes off they look great. Powell will be salivating.'"


I think the 3 weeks away from the training field will have as big an impact as the short turnaround.

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Take away the I've gotta try or no try from the refs and let the guy upstairs make a decision..

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Yep our completion rate is a real worry. Some of our passing was at best "optimistic". But this Leeds side isn't bad ... so a good one to win.

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Beaten Saints away, Wigan away, Catalans away, Leeds away and drew with Hull (before their standard mid-season implosion)......that's not bad going, especially when there is a lot of room for improvement.

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I personally enjoyed the game. 2 teams backing up after 72 hours or so put on a great display with a finish that you talk about long after. 2 awesome wins wire within a few days of each other. Ignore the doom mongers and carry on building form.

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Struggled with their middles again first half.

Weirdly at one point in the 2nd qe had mulhern davis and longstaff as our middle 3 before Hughes got shifted to middle of the field.


Williams needs some decent direct runners outside him,

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The Leeds middles are good & Mikolaj Oledzki is right handful ... best prop around I reckon.

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He's come on a lot, I thought he was like bambi on ice 2 seasons ago, combined with holroyd and prior, all similar stature, very leggy.

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As an aside Walker's try should've been an 8 point one, grubby Gale goes flying in with his foot....naughty.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "The Leeds middles are good & Mikolaj Oledzki is right handful ... best prop around I reckon.'"


He's a good player. If we could play fantasy RL, I'd have him & that Wigan lad, Pearce-paul at the top of my list.

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Quote: Alffi_7 "I believe the correct restart would be a penalty to the attacking team if it was deemed a ball steal? But as you mention, the penalty try awarded for a ball steal was dropped some time ago.'"


I just checked with a refereeing friend of mine. This was his reply.
"The ball is stolen in the act of scoring which is fine under the new rule changes so would be play on. Then Dwyer goes in touch so it would be a Warrington lateral turnover 10 metres out from the tryline. They could choose to play the ball 10m in, 20m in or halfway."

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