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Quote: HardWired "However, Toby King has been immense in defence'"


Stats show 34 missed talks from 290. 12%. I would call that pretty average rather than immense.

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Quote: The Railwayman "He missed !!'"


Ha! Not in the actual game though. He's a better passer than any of our current in my opinion.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "You mean 6 because yet again the most overrated player in SL history went missing in a big game'"

i was going to reply to this... then i read some of your posts and realised you're a bit on the slow side.

So i wont.

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Quote: Saddened! "What's with all the hate for Dec Patton? I thought he was the better of your halfbacks. It's a combo that SHOULD work really well. Patton did his job today IMO, organising and putting in the kicks. His general positional kicking was excellent, pinning Saints back several times with quality long kicks that held in the field of play. Austin was the weaker of the two, he is there to create chances and worry teams and create space for others just because he's there. But today he did nothing of note, getting splattered by Bentley on the one half break he did make.'"


Go one then... i will bite

he isnt very good.... thats the bottom line. You cant watch that game and pinpoint Austin making mistakes.... What i saw from Austin was someone desperately trying to make things happen, but not having any luck.

When i watch Patton i see the poor passes, the bad decision making, the ropey defence.... over and over over.

When i see Austin, i see someone trying his hardest to pull the rest of the players up to his level... if we gave him a better pack to work behind and a half decent 7, god knows what we would see.... he is currently top of the charts with 18 tries and 11 assists.... is probably the leading contender for MOS..... Not bad for a 'settling in' period.

It's getting to the point now, where if he doesn't put a team to the sword on his own, he getting stick for it... it seems people think he should be levitating over players and scoring at will or something... amazing.

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Quote: The Railwayman "Have we had a really decent centre since Gleeson who most certainly knew how to put his wing man in. I think I could have scored one or two playing on the wing with him inside. None of our current centres, Atkins, King and Goodwin are good distributors but I still do have hopes for King. Don't know yet if Burrell can pass'"


How come Chris Riley scored hundred odd tries....was it because he was just so good he could score outside anyone?

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Bridge'"

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Quote: sally cinnamon "How come Chris Riley scored hundred odd tries....was it because he was just so good he could score outside anyone?'"


We've done this Sally. Riley by his own admission said the majority of his tries were walk ins.

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He must have had a world class centre inside him to be on the end of all those walk ins.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "He must have had a world class centre inside him to be on the end of all those walk ins.'"


All face balls from Hodgson cutting out the centre icon_wink.gif

Anyway I'm not sure what point your are mooting here - we have had a wealth of good centres or one or two in the last 15 years?

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Quote: Wires71 "All face balls from Hodgson cutting out the centre
I think the lack of centres is quite a recent problem - last 5 seasons.

In the earlier, successful TS era, we had King, Atkins and Bridge. Grix and Ratchford spent time in the centres too. By SL standards those are all very good options, worthy of a top side. In the 2000s we had Gleeson, Grose, Kohe-Love and Hunte. Other than Gleeson those were perhaps less consistent performers over time than the ones TS had, but any of those four at their best could rival the ones TS had. I think we would take any of them now. And of course in the 1990s, we had Bateman and Davies, and for one season Nigel Vagana too.

The problem has really been since Bridge and Grix left, and Atkins went in to a slow decline. We had high hopes for Rhys Evans but he wasn't the answer. We've found "OK" options in Toby King and Goodwin, but it hasn't been a position of strength. If we still had any two from those I mentioned in the paragraph above I think we'd be very strong.

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I know that he wasn't here long enough to put in your lists but IF we could have kept hold of Hiku for a couple of seasons....I think he may have made it in SL

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Ah yeah - I forgot about Hiku! He was definitely top rate.

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Luther plays in London.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Ah yeah - I forgot about Hiku! He was definitely top rate.'"


Not a problem his tenure in a Wire shirt was unfortunately too short all be it timely, but, what it shows to me and I include Burrell in this, is that the club does try to recruit in a fairly balanced method and centre is no exception, despite the position carrying more of a utility value than some others? The best are usually out and out centres but most are touted as centres that could play at FB, or Wing or Second Row.

Will Burrell perhaps a second row centre work out I hope he does looking forward to seeing him give it a go and FWIW I think King still has a decent chance of making Tier 1 fingers crossed

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Quote: Uncle Rico "I know that he wasn't here long enough to put in your lists but IF we could have kept hold of Hiku for a couple of seasons....I think he may have made it in SL'"

Oh what might have been. We ended up with an opportunist signing of Goodwin due to financial issues at Leigh, and although BG hasn't let us down, PH disappearing back home was a massive disappointment.

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