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| rlhttps://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_5934-cross-and-cahill-pen-widnes-deals.htmlrl
Widnes next season in any case...
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "The ONLY thing that changed your opinion on this player is that your club signed him.'"
Correct, because we NEED him. Prescott and Fielden are both injured and Coley is not fully fit. O'Carroll is not back so he can't fill in and Hock has only just returned. Crosby and Davies are not quite ready yet.
He could have signed for wire or saints, I don't care, his experience in the NRL and at Origin speaks for itself. Clearly I was taking more notice of his time at Leeds.
It's great how you are all talking like you have never changed your view on something though. Do you pick an opinion and stick to it all your life? Or can you see another side to a debate and get torn?
Have I broken some rules by changing my view or something
It's nice to know I am still loved on here though
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Yes it is a little different but the situation has changed in those weeks. My views have changed with it. I stand by those views now if we didn't have an injury, we simply wouldn't need him.
The thing I was wrong about was his time at Leeds, I was looking at that and not his previous time in the NRL where he was superb.
Like I say on our board though, our coaching staff turned Fielden back around, they can do the same with Cross.'"
You need this?
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| Quote: Odemwingie "I totally accept it. But if you read my other posts instead of picking ones out... you will see that we didn't need a prop at the time.. Prescott and Coley were still fit and I also accept that I was looking at his time in Leeds rather than the NRL.
Or is it just too radical that I have changed my view on a player?
2 years ago I thought Pryce had a chance at Wigan... now I think he will never make it.
There was a time when wire fans wanted shut of Matt King.... views change.
I was being one-eyed in my view and I looked at the bigger picture and realised he would be a good player for our squad.
Shock horror. The situation has changed since than, therefore so has my view. If we had a fully fit front row... I wouldnt go near him. But we don't.'"
He hasn't played since your first comment as far as I'm aware, for you to alter your judgement on him, unlike the Pryce and King case you use to promote your reasoning and the only thing that has happened between the times of your comments are that he's signed for Wigan, your club.
I'm sorry, but a clearer case of myopic and biased views doesn't exist.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "more blah blah blah'"
Were just all finding it really funny that's one min he is rubbish... then all of a sudden you're very excited about the signing.
There's changing your mind..... and there's CHANGING YOUR MIND.
He hasnt even played since your view changed
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Yes it is a little different but the situation has changed in those weeks. My views have changed with it. I stand by those views now if we didn't have an injury, we simply wouldn't need him.
The thing I was wrong about was his time at Leeds, I was looking at that and not his previous time in the NRL where he was superb.
Like I say on our board though, our coaching staff turned Fielden back around, they can do the same with Cross.'"
Either I/ve been out of the country for the last few years, or they've upped the alcohol %age on Bushland Australian Shiraz (Aldi £3.99 a bottle - FANTASTICHE), because I'm struggling to recall this upturn of form in Fielden's game. Yes, he's improved since Maguire came, but he's NOWHERE NEAR his Bradford form era.
At the time, Fielden was maybe the best prop in the world, now, he's not even in the top 5 in the North West of England.
..keep digging
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| Quote: keithcun "He hasn't played since your first comment as far as I'm aware, for you to alter your judgement on him, unlike the Pryce and King case you use to promote your reasoning and the only thing that has happened between the times of your comments are that he's signed for Wigan, your club.
I'm sorry, but a clearer case of myopic and biased views doesn't exist.'"
It is our situation which changed my view. We now NEED a forward. THAT is what changed my view.
I accept that before I was being one-eyed in my view about his time at Leeds. Since then I have seen the bigger picture. Is that really so radical?
Have you never changed your view on something? Im sure you have.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Either I/ve been out of the country for the last few years, or they've upped the alcohol %age on Bushland Australian Shiraz (Aldi £3.99 a bottle - FANTASTICHE), because I'm struggling to recall this upturn of form in Fielden's game. Yes, he's improved since Maguire came, but he's NOWHERE NEAR his Bradford form era.
At the time, Fielden was maybe the best prop in the world, now, he's not even in the top 5 in the North West of England.
..keep digging'"
Did I say he was? I don't think I did.
But yes they improved him a lot.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "Were just all finding it really funny that's one min he is rubbish... then all of a sudden you're very excited about the signing.
There's changing your mind..... and there's CHANGING YOUR MIND.
He hasnt even played since your view changed
Well he was rubbish at Leeds, but I have opened my eyes to his past experience.
I have changed my mind because the situation has changed, we now NEED a forward. He can do a job for us.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Well he was rubbish at Leeds, but I have opened my eyes to his past experience.
I have changed my mind because the situation has changed, we now NEED a forward. He can do a job for us.'"
Quick lets get Quins on the phone and sign Calderwood up before anyone else comes in for him, i'm opening my eyes to his past experience.
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| this thread is ACE.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Did I say he was? I don't think I did.
But yes they improved him a lot.'"
as much as you want to big Fielden up, he aint that good anymore....would I have him at the HJ on his (I assume) huge wages...NOT A CHANCE...I'd stick with what you've got.
Love your last effort though, re Cross. Just because you NEED a prop, your opinion on a player's form has changed....not exactly the bedrock for a good debate, is it? If you didn't need him, you wouldn't touch him with a pooey stick.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Quick lets get Quins on the phone and sign Calderwood up before anyone else comes in for him, i'm opening my eyes to his past experience.'"
2 decent seasons at Leeds is not exactly the same as playing SOO in the front row for NSW. Hardly a decent comparison.
I'm sure none of you guys have ever changed your mind about anything so I will just leave you to it
Odemwingie is happy sitting at the top of the table as current champions while getting decent coverage on the wire board. A shadow of my former glory though.
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| To be fair to Odemwingie, he does change his views often.
On the Wigan board, Wire fans are scum. On here, we're alright.
On the Wigan board, he wants Danny Maguire's career to end. On here, he thinks people who say that overreacted.
He is constistently inconsistent.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Quick lets get Quins on the phone and sign Calderwood up before anyone else comes in for him, i'm opening my eyes to his past experience.'"
More like Karl Pryce, Yed....what a guy
Jumped ship to the 3 point game, and now, I'd struggle to find him a sub's spot for him in National League 4 side...but he's got experience
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