it may be sickening for you but he was loved at Wigan by a hell of a lot of people. not for the things he did that classed him as a "thug" or a "cheat" but for the rugby he played and the way he always gave at least 110% for Wigan. thats why people had "do it for Terry" on their tops. plus the fact he never actually won a GF so they thought it would be a fitting tribute to him - each to their own.
Terry's issues were known by nobody but himself, but he obviously couldn't find a way to sort them or he would still be here. i dont know where or why he hung himself, but I as a Wiganer find it upsetting it happened. he was a Wigan lad and Wiganers stood by him. Am i wrong in thinking if it had been an ex Warrington player you would be the same or would you disown him?

hanged himself, pictures are hung, people are hanged
people have different perceptions of suicide all of which are not wrong, just different, just as different people have different perceptions of drug use in sport.
both sides of the debate have valid arguements and provoke emotions in people who do share the beliefs of the other. M.P. you have been a little insensitive
especially for a christian! but W.L he is entitled to an opinion even if it does differ from yours!


WAS THAT PATRONISING ENOUGH?

Christian doctrine teaches that as only God has the ability ultimately to create life, so only He has the ability/right to take life away. Hence suicide has been seen alongside murder as a mortal sin, and for a long time those who murdered or committed suicide were not buried in consecrated ground but often at crossroads (also the traditional location of gibbets), not entirely sure why but something to do with confusing the Devil who came for their souls I think... Not necessarily a thought I agree with fully, although I believe in principle that no human has the right to take away a human life be it their own or anothers' - I tend to subscribe to the belief that people who commit suicide mentally damage & hurt those they leave behind a damn site more than they were themselves...

WL I have nothing but sympathy for Newton's friends & family. I have nothing like that for him having taken his own life, in fact considerably less than when he was making strides in dealing with the death of his sister, his drugs ban etc... Sorry if my opinions upset you but they are mine & I find the outpouring of public grief over public figures just as nauseating. BTW, Neil Kenyon is the only player associated with Warrington I can recall who took his own life - and my opinions of him for doing that are just as strong as they are for Newton...

I think some of our fans should look up the definition of irony and sing 'Wanky Warrington' when we're winning, instead of "We're not y anymore"

No I fully accept you have different opinions to me, and they don't upset me. As i've said, theres been something there for him which is why I was so upset and I get defensive easily (as you may noticed!) but thats fair, if you find it nauseating then thats your choice. I was just trying to clarify why so many people were upset about him dying.

No problem!

My father wasn't a coward he was ill MP keep your mouth shut on something you're quite clearly not qualified to speak about. I'll keep the insults out of a forum but i'm seething at your 'cowards way out ' comment

How do you know I'm not qualified?

Look I clearly didn't know your father, his illness or his situation & I accept an illness could make a difference - I apologise for any hurt or distress caused by my comments, certainly none was intended. However, as a generalisation I stick by my opinion while being prepared to revise it for particular circuimstances

He's French, he's flash, he's sha**ing Leslie Ash
Cantona! Cantona!

heard one bout ryan atkins and chanelle off BB, saying he picked her over cheryl cole...

didnt make sense

i know your not qualified! as a trained psychiatric nurse who works with suicidal people every evening of the week, it is clear you are not qualified.
opinionated and lacking in compasion yes, qualified no!

Fully agree.

no one is qualified... not ever.... no human will ever be able to understand why another human takes their own life.

so can we all reign this in now before it gets uglier than it already is.

Lockadoodledo

lol