Would a hung parliment not be best for all parties.

Good luck with that

The problem is that under a Labour government, poor people has suffered whilst Blair tried to appeal to "Cool Britannia" and The City. Labour is supposed to be the working man's party, and yet the poor have suffered, be it through the scrapping of the 10p tax rate, the record number of stealth taxes. The New Labour project has failed.

Socialists believe in a classless society, where all are equal and treated fairly, regardless of background.

If socialists believe in a classless society, why did Gordon's election announcement outside no10 begin "I come from an ordinary middle class family?" Why, during the Crewe & Nantwich by election did Labour activists follow Ed Timpson around dressed in top hats and tails?

I don't disagree with you, but many of those things would have happened under the torries as they were due to the recession and not labour and you would would have several big banks collapsing to add to the list too. The fact that Cameron opposed the bail out makes me have zero faith in him or his ability to guide us safley out of this recesion.

I do think its time for change but the stakes are too high just now. Maybie next time round when your party has a leader people can believe in.

I think you're getting mixed up here. Socialists base their whole philosophy on classes in society. It was John Major who said classless society.

sorry, i should have added a 'pigs might fly' smiley!

Were they making the point that Ed Timpson represents a party that is essentially filled with and looks to benefit people with conotations of top hats and tails and balls to everybody else, perhaps?

Why does Cameron insist on changing his favourite drink to suit the bandwagon? It was Guiness and a game of darts a few weeks ago, now he's a Cider drinker?

I'm pretty certain when DC visited Warrington back in Summer 2008 he had a pint of cider

Young leaders are rarely successful, ironically for all his unpopularity and bungling errors Brown's seniority gives him a gravitas in this campaign which Cameron and Clegg don't have, they look like clone wannabe Blairs, but Blair was never that popular, he just happened to be Labour leader at a time when they were always going to win the next election (no party can credibly hope to win 5 in a row, the argument for 'change' is just too strong). Labour would have waltzed to victory under John Smith in 97 if he had still been alive.

The Tories made this mistake with William Hague, who if they had waited ten years, would now be a formidable leader, he's easily the most articulate and witty speaker in the Commons, and he talks well both to the media and in hustings type situations. When he was leader, he was a prematurely balding 30 odd year old with a terrible combover and surrounded himself with idiot image makers who put him in a baseball cap going down a waterslide, and the media made fun of him. To shore up their traditional vote the Tories need a statesman or woman with seniority and gravitas, Cameron/Osborne have been picked too young. Hague (if he hadn't been leader before), Davis or Clarke would dominate Brown now, as would Portillo had he stayed in the Commons and not left to pursue his media career.

I take that point. The key ideal of socialism was the criticism of private ownership and the workers' rights. Essentially, the party of the working class, true. But that's not to say you have to be working class to be a socialist (I'm not sure you'd put Michael foot into the marxist working class category, for example).

Are you drinking what we're drinking?

you think the bail out worked..?

i don't know the exact quote, but 'we're well placed to lead everyone out of the recession' springs to mind. which is all well and good if leading everyone meant holding the door open so every sodding country could file past leaving us to traipse out after everyone else.

at some point we were always likely to come out of it, trying to claim credit for something that was going to happen anyway doesn't really work for me.

The bailout it worked in the sence that the whole system didn't collapse. Thats the best you can hope for.

We were the last country out of recession because we are such a service base economy. And we have the Tories to that for that one.