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I think that analysis is fair although Riley is a better returner of the kick than Mathers. In fact I am struggling to think of many things that Mathers actually does well.
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: mark_m "I think that analysis is fair although Riley is a better returner of the kick than Mathers. In fact I am struggling to think of many things that Mathers actually does well.'"
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| Quote: JWP "I'm no Mathers fan, but I'd take him above Riley all day long. If folk think Riley is this safe as houses alternative, he isn't. I remember cringing last year when we played Wakefield away - granted he scored a full lengther late in the game, by that time we were forty odd down due in no small part to his antics. Christ, he presented a try last week with plop handling.
He's a decent winger - that's it for me. There's nothing exciting about him, he's not flash, he'd rather cut in than go out etc, but he does a job, he's a tough little cookie, he's reliable enough and he gives you 100% every week. If he had the swagger that Penny has with ball in hand, he'd be a serious talent. Sadly, if Penny could do all the little things well like Riley does, so would he.'"
That's the nail hit squarely on the head. Is Hicks no longer an option for FB? |
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Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| Quote: worthing wire "That's the nail hit squarely on the head. Is Hicks no longer an option for FB?'"
He has greater worth to the team as a winger, than fullback in my humble. |
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I would have Hicks at Fb
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[quote="Saddened!":35bi8yki]Ben Harrison is going to become the best prop England have over the next few years. He is a superb prospect, better than most in SL already.[/quote:35bi8yki]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50630.jpg |
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| Quote: robbierotten "I would have Hicks at Fb'"
So would i looks so much secure under the high bomb and is so powerful and a good returner of the ball aswell imo.
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| Quote: Josh "So would i looks so much secure under the high bomb and is so powerful and a good returner of the ball aswell imo.
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King on the wing, Atkins inside him. I'd go with that to be honest, for all Mathers' enthusiasm and organising he brings to the team, the risk and lack of confidence as a last line defender far out weighs the pros for me. I know its harsh, but If we are seriously going to be challenging for trophies we cant afford to players who struggles to perform the basics. |
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[quote="Saddened!":35bi8yki]Ben Harrison is going to become the best prop England have over the next few years. He is a superb prospect, better than most in SL already.[/quote:35bi8yki]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50630.jpg |
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| Quote: Supreme Optimist "King on the wing, Atkins inside him. I'd go with that to be honest, for all Mathers' enthusiasm and organising he brings to the team, the risk and lack of confidence as a last line defender far out weighs the pros for me. I know its harsh, but If we are seriously going to be challenging for trophies we cant afford to players who struggles to perform the basics.'"
I'd keep roatating King & Atkins it was proven that is a good move from the Bradford game. |
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Tony Smith: "I thought the fans really made the difference on Sunday. At times I looked at the South Stand and thought WOW those guys are rocking in there, I like that.":35453.jpg |
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| Quote: Josh "I'd keep roatating King & Atkins it was proven that is a good move from the Bradford game.'"
Yeah rotating, they have complemented each other very well so far this season. |
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Mathers as the last line of defence is superb. The amount of times he gets under the body of a player over the try line to hold them up is as good as anybody in the league.
If a fullback is faced with a player one on one in mid-field it means somebody else has failed in defence not the fullback.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "At least Mathers wants to be at the club and plays with pride in the jersey.
Would you rather we still had Gleeson and Mathers was at Wigan?'"
Im more than happy with where the two ended up  |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: wiganers "Im more than happy with where the two ended up ![]()
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Mathers is a very likeable lad, but in truth a very average fullback. Wigan now have three possible fullbacks in Phelps, Roberts and Richards who are better.
I don't think Wire have three better centres than Gleeson.
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[quote="Saddened!":35bi8yki]Ben Harrison is going to become the best prop England have over the next few years. He is a superb prospect, better than most in SL already.[/quote:35bi8yki]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50630.jpg |
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| Quote: wiganers "Im more than happy with where the two ended up ![]()
And so am i.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't think Wire have three better centres than Gleeson.'"
I would say that King, Atkins and Bridge are and have played better than at centre than Gleeson has over a similar period since he left us.
Which of the three do you reckon Gleeson has played better than over that period?
Plus we got £100k and released getting on for another £100k of our salary cap |
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