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Quote: Buc "I'll stick with scoring and creating tries which is what a halfback primarily does. Why don't you move Tomkins to prop if that's what you rank him on? Totally clueless, now go and find your bookmarks.'"


What ever did happen to his bookmarks?

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Quote: Billinge Wires "I agree Tomkins should have probably been given the nod - but who knows he could have picked up a slight knock.The thing I dont like about Tomkins is that he is a petulant little so and so and can lose his rag at the drop of the hat.A little bit of sledging and he is put off his game.Look at the Semi against us , they were all winding him up especially King and Clarke and he could not take it.Look at the cricket and the Aussies are past masters at sledging and I think the Rugby team would be much the same.'"


Very true.

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Quote: Billinge Wires "I agree Tomkins should have probably been given the nod - but who knows he could have picked up a slight knock.The thing I dont like about Tomkins is that he is a petulant little so and so and can lose his rag at the drop of the hat.A little bit of sledging and he is put off his game.Look at the Semi against us , they were all winding him up especially King and Clarke and he could not take it.Look at the cricket and the Aussies are past masters at sledging and I think the Rugby team would be much the same.'"


Obviously you did not see the Wigan game v Salford in the Challenge Cup.

Nyler was so poor defensively that he finished up defending on the wing just to get him out of the way.

Myler, Tomkins and Eastmond are all great young prospects and need encouraging not destroying.

My concern is that Tomkins form should have dictated he played.

Similarly I do not understand Smiths decision to play James Graham on the bench.

My post on the Wigan site "Apart from the Tomkins issue, which has now been done to death I don't understand the selection of James Graham on the bench.

Graham is NOT an impact prop. He doesn't makes a lot of metres per carry. His major strengths are his fitness, tenacity, durability, stamina and his ability to take on a number of drives per set.

Morley on the other takes less drives but will make more metres per drive.

I would have had Graham and Peacock starting with Morley and Carvell on the bench.

Dropping Carvell is another strange decision, he and OLoughlin were top tacklers last week.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Obviously you did not see the Wigan game v Salford in the Challenge Cup.

Nyler was so poor defensively that he finished up defending on the wing just to get him out of the way.

Myler, Tomkins and Eastmond are all great young prospects and need encouraging not destroying.

My concern is that Tomkins form should have dictated he played.

Similarly I do not understand Smiths decision to play James Graham on the bench.

My post on the Wigan site "Apart from the Tomkins issue, which has now been done to death I don't understand the selection of James Graham on the bench.

Graham is NOT an impact prop. He doesn't makes a lot of metres per carry. His major strengths are his fitness, tenacity, durability, stamina and his ability to take on a number of drives per set.

Morley on the other takes less drives but will make more metres per drive.

I would have had Graham and Peacock starting with Morley and Carvell on the bench.

Dropping Carvell is another strange decision, he and OLoughlin were top tacklers last week.'"
myler had to defend on the wing ,thats called tactics pal you dont want your half back tackeling so you save then for attacking wrong again,impact prop ,who is a inpact prop they all do the same ,20 mins then back on and fresh again ,graham makes loads of metres per carrie ,how is morley aimpact prop but grahams not wrong again icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops:

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I agree with the Graham comment rogues, and carvell.
I think it's more to do with still trying a few things out.
I cant see us going into the Aus game with one prop on the bench for instance. Possibly Grahams not quite fit and could do with an easier run this week? i dont know..

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Quote: Dico "I agree with the Graham comment rogues, and carvell.
I think it's more to do with still trying a few things out.
I cant see us going into the Aus game with one prop on the bench for instance. Possibly Grahams not quite fit and could do with an easier run this week? i dont know..'"
well you know nothing same as him

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So you've told us Ivy yet you're the one that considers Higham an international hooker.
Just leave the big boys to talk rugby, you play with your GI Joe or whatever

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Quote: Dico "So you've told us Ivy yet you're the one that considers Higham an international hooker.
Just leave the big boys to talk rugby, you play with your GI Joe or whatever'"
thats cos he is dic ,i will leave the bull boys to it then ,theres a right smell ov on this forum sleepy.gif

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Quote: WireFanatic II "Useless, not fit to play for England, terrible attacking/defensive stats..............it all works out the same in the end. You don't want him to play for England because he is now a Warrington player. You don't want him to play for England because the England coach is the Warrington coach. You don't want him to play for England because he has replaced a Wiganer in the team.

That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. Plus I see you've not denied the part about bannings on your board.

IMO, I couldn't care less if Smith picks Myler or Tomkins or McGuire or Eastmond. All I want is whoever gets picked to work together as a team and push England to beating those ***** from down under.

All this whining and complaining about players being picked over others is just pathetic. If you're a proper England fan, you would get behind the team selection no matter what.

Do you hear me whining about Carvell being left out of the squad? I'm not happy about it, but it's Smith who picks the team and I've got confidence that he's picked the right players for the right game.

I'm not going to go and and moan and start a stupid thread saying that Carvell should have been picked, that Smith is out of his depth and that I'm never supporting England ever again.'"


Your actually wrong. You want him to play for England because he is a warrington player and because its a warrington caoch, the rest of RL agrees with me.

Are you that blind that you can't see that it is only warrington fans who think he should be in the team and he is a better player?

I am right behind the team, I hope Myler does a great job but there is nothing wrong with discussing selection issues, IMO this is just one big cockup.

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Quote: st ives "myler had to defend on the wing ,thats called tactics pal you dont want your half back tackeling so you save then for attacking wrong again,impact prop ,who is a inpact prop they all do the same ,20 mins then back on and fresh again ,graham makes loads of metres per carrie ,how is morley aimpact prop but grahams not wrong again
In that game Wigan attacked Mylers wing, Pat Richards scored three tries and Gareth Hock two.

Some tactics

James Graham average metres per carry 7.13, Adrian Morley average metres per carry 8.08.

What team do you coach?
God help them.

If I were you I'd stick to cleaning Mickeys boots.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Facts are not allowed on the wire board.

If Myler was so good he would be YPOTY he has only made 4 less appearances thats enough to show you are better than someone.

Oh and Myler plays in the lesser team so has more chance to shine, he is the go to man.

This debate is settled by looking at other fans forums, forget what we think about our own players. Look at all the other boards, look at the VT.'"


Otherwise known as Cherry and White 2...

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Quote: Odemwingie "Your actually wrong. You want him to play for England because he is a warrington player and because its a warrington caoch, the rest of RL agrees with me.'"


Is that a fact? Please direct me to any post that I have made that states that I am desperate for Myler to play for England because he is a Warrington player.

I'll give you as much time as you need. However, you won't find one.

Quote: Odemwingie "Are you that blind that you can't see that it is only warrington fans who think he should be in the team and he is a better player?'"


Whatever they want to think, then it's up to them. I've already said that I will go with whatever team Smith picks because he is the coach and he has the experience. If it proves to be the wrong decision, then so be it.

Quote: Odemwingie "I am right behind the team, I hope Myler does a great job but there is nothing wrong with discussing selection issues, IMO this is just one big cockup.'"


Nothing wrong with discussing selection issues at all. However, pardon me for cracking a wry smile when you said you hope Myler does a great job. No offence pal, but I don't believe that one bit.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Wiganers want Myler to fail miserably just so that they can proclaim they were right all along and that Tomkins, a Wigan player, should have been in the squad originally.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "In that game Wigan attacked Mylers wing, Pat Richards scored three tries and Gareth Hock two.

Some tactics

James Graham average metres per carry 7.13, Adrian Morley average metres per carry 8.08.

What team do you coach?
God help them.

If I were you I'd stick to cleaning Mickeys boots.'"
used clean them when he was 8 someone else has been doing them for last 12 years .no wonder mate playing salford so if your going off that god help you son.and if ask any player or coach the half back defends on the wing or inside the winger as it saves them for attack .again you need listen and learn before you put your pie brain in to gear

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Is it me or does Odemwinger spend more time on our board than he does on his own's teams'? :S

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Quote: WireFanatic II "
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Wiganers want Myler to fail miserably just so that they can proclaim they were right all along and that Tomkins, a Wigan player, should have been in the squad originally.'"


I don't want Myler to fail at all he is playing for England, I wanted Tomkins to be selected as that was the right decision to make taking everything into account.

Everything else you say is utter gash, what other fans say is more important and a more valid opinion than what we say as we support the two players in question.

I hope Myler tears the French appart and gives me hope that we have a star for Englands future and a star to make Warrington a force which the fans deserve. Your opinion appears to be that Odemwingie is against RL.

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