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Quote: Bunkaib "Leeds successful on Cam Smith appeal what's people's thoughts?'"


He is not Paul Vaughan and he does not play for Warrington.

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We ‘seem’ utterly pathetic/toothless when it comes to the disciplinary. Have we ever challenged anything and come out of it on favourable terms?

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Quote: Bunkaib "Leeds successful on Cam Smith appeal what's people's thoughts?'"


Leeds are terrible and you can beat them even with your front row missing. Smith had to be pardoned though, the decision to sanction him in the first place was embarrassing. Even the grade A he ended up with is shocking.

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Quote: karetaker "He is not Paul Vaughan and he does not play for Warrington.'"

Vaughan was always going to be banned. His arm was between the legs when he lifted, lucky the guy landed on his shoulders. can’t see what the problem is with his ban. No need to indulge in Sad One’s “victimisation” theme.

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I don't believe in any conspiracy just the wild inconsistencies. I'd be turning up and playing the video of Harry Smith's tip tackle alongside Vaughan's and asking for the justification of Vaughan's 2 game ban when Smith was cleared. Vaughan's tackle looks a lot less dangerous than that of Smith's.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "I don't believe in any conspiracy just the wild inconsistencies. I'd be turning up and playing the video of Harry Smith's tip tackle alongside Vaughan's and asking for the justification of Vaughan's 2 game ban when Smith was cleared. Vaughan's tackle looks a lot less dangerous than that of Smith's.'"

The Smith decision was wrong, doesn’t mean the Vaughan one is.

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I agree but surely there's a case based around a (very recent) precedent?

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Quote: ratticusfinch "I agree but surely there's a case based around a (very recent) precedent?'"


Burgess has said that they reviewed the footage. I am sure the club would appeal if they thought there was any chance.

Quote: ratticusfinch "Warrington will not appeal the suspension handed to Vaughan, which rules him out of next weekend’s Challenge Cup trip to St Helens as well as Friday’s game, after he was cited for the tip tackle on Cesar Rouge which saw him sin-binned.

And Burgess says a review of the incident meant there was never any prospect of challenging the Match Review Panel’s ruling.

“I don’t think the evidence was in our favour,” he said.

“You read the ruling and the letter of the law and it wasn’t really favourable for us.

“The Match Review committee probably got it right – if Vaughany had his time again, I daresay he’d do things differently so we’ve just got to take the lesson and move on.”'"


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Quote: ratticusfinch "I agree but surely there's a case based around a (very recent) precedent?'"


Burgess has said that they reviewed the footage. I am sure the club would appeal if they thought there was any chance.

Quote: ratticusfinch "Warrington will not appeal the suspension handed to Vaughan, which rules him out of next weekend’s Challenge Cup trip to St Helens as well as Friday’s game, after he was cited for the tip tackle on Cesar Rouge which saw him sin-binned.

And Burgess says a review of the incident meant there was never any prospect of challenging the Match Review Panel’s ruling.

“I don’t think the evidence was in our favour,” he said.

“You read the ruling and the letter of the law and it wasn’t really favourable for us.

“The Match Review committee probably got it right – if Vaughany had his time again, I daresay he’d do things differently so we’ve just got to take the lesson and move on.”'"


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I saw that and I'm sure they know a lot more than I do. IMO I just believe if Wigan/Saints/Leeds were missing their best prop for a tough game which was to keep them in the hunt for one of the 2 trophies available - they'd have a dig to get it down to 1 game...even if it was a long shot.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "I saw that and I'm sure they know a lot more than I do. IMO I just believe if Wigan/Saints/Leeds were missing their best prop for a tough game which was to keep them in the hunt for one of the 2 trophies available - they'd have a dig to get it down to 1 game...even if it was a long shot.'"

I assume they have had advice that an appeal against the decision could well be deemed frivolous which would result in an extra game ban and therefore not worth the risk. I can’t see any way they would risk being without him for 3 games.

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I should have added “long shot”=“frivolous”.

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Quote: Captain Hook "I should have added “long shot”

Have St Helens ever had a ban increased after a "Frivolous" appeal?

I don`t remember it happening.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "I saw that and I'm sure they know a lot more than I do. IMO I just believe if Wigan/Saints/Leeds were missing their best prop for a tough game which was to keep them in the hunt for one of the 2 trophies available - they'd have a dig to get it down to 1 game...even if it was a long shot.'"


As soon as Vaughan did that tackle I thought he will get a ban. It was dangerous. No point at all in reviewing the decision ... unless you want the ban increasing. Nothing to do with Wigan/Saints/Leeds. It deserved 2 games or more. I wasn't surprised that the Cameron Smith ban was overturned either.

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Quote: Boss Hog "Have St Helens ever had a ban increased after a "Frivolous" appeal?

I don`t remember it happening.'"

But we have.

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Quote: Captain Hook "But we have.'"


Of course we have and I understand that`s what you alluded to, but I can`t recall St Helens being lumbered with a frivolous increase, when they frequently appeal against a ban on one of their players.

Maybe the Sad One can enlighten me.

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