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Imagine being on standby and being required to play.. then winning the big prize... would that feel right?
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| Quote Briers'Boot="Briers'Boot"Imagine being on standby and being required to play.. then winning the big prize... would that feel right?'"
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Need to separate running a financially stable business from running a successful club - only need to look at Bradford Bulls to see where the latter without the former might lead.
Then consider the business decision about the cost of sacking and paying off coach and hiring a new one, when balancing out if you can then afford to bring in player xyz.
So maybe these considerations have to be accounted for, it's not just as easy as chop & change.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Agreed, but remember the popular view on this forum at the time was that TS had reached the end of the road and anybody would be better than TS. I think Price has basically been as close to continuation of the later TS years as we could get. We didn't go backwards (which is an underestimated risk when changing coach) but we didn't go forwards. The pattern has been 2 steps forward, 2 steps back. So the idea that anybody would be better than TS was proven wrong, and just ditching Price now and playing coach roulette risks the same - or worse, hiring someone who takes us backwards.
I feel the same about Price now as I did about Cullen at the end of 2006. We know what we have got. We're likely to be around the same level as long as this goes on. We had a similar situation if I remember with Cullen going into a contract year in 2007 and I remember always having the feeling that the board liked Cullen and wanted to find an excuse to extend him - which they did when we had a bit of a good run - but that was a mistake, and even Cullen himself said on the Woody and Higham show that with hindsight he shouldn't have signed that extension. I don't think the board is as wedded to Price as it was to Cullen but there is a risk that if we jump to extend him after a few wins, we will just be where we were at the end of Cullen, going into a wilderness period where we can't move forward until we have the right appointment.
Although Lowes didn't work out as Cullen's replacement, the board was at least thinking ahead when it saw TS was going to be available after the 2008 world cup, and had him in mind as the long term replacement. I think the same approach is called for now. =#0000FFFind a guy who is really good - Wane, McDermott, one of the top Aussies - see when they are available. Rather than extend Price, give Anderson or Henderson a shot in the interim.
Paul Anderson did well in his previous head coaching job - he won the minor Premiership with Huddersfield - and was sacked prematurely as Huddersfield's fortunes afterwards showed. Imagine how we would feel if say Anderson went to Cas to replace Powell and had them back on top of the league like he did Hudds. We would be asking hard questions of the board saying how did we miss this guy on our doorstep.
So I would say take a long view - start lining up which of the real elite coaches is coming available in 2022, 2023, 2024 etc. Give Anderson a crack at Wire in the meantime. If Anderson takes us to GF winning level then we have our answer, if not, then pivot to the big gun down the line.'"
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| Quote Briers'Boot="Briers'Boot"Imagine being on standby and being required to play.. then winning the big prize... would that feel right?'"
No, but would give no end of amusing posts from the folk of WA9 ad infinitum. |
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Anderson worth a go for a season, then get Wane.
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Very good call about Paul Anderson. Past experience and knows all the Academy lads well. Big change of playing style needed and far more reliance on youth. Ashton, Thewlis, Doro, Dean, Longstaff, Wrench and Butler prominent.
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| Quote 49er="49er"Very good call about Paul Anderson. Past experience and knows all the Academy lads well. Big change of playing style needed and far more reliance on youth. Ashton, Thewlis, Doro, Dean, Longstaff, Wrench and Butler prominent.'"
Doesn't have an aussie accent, would promote youth and would deprive the CEO of a jolly down under. Hmmmmmmm. |
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As has been mentioned in a previous post about Aussies putting bums on seats in the stands , it sounds good if they perform as we expect otherwise fans will see through these imported bums & lose interest.
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"
As for the cost of sacking Price, well I'd have some sympathy if we hadn't wasted hundreds of thousands of pounds on Akuola, Latu, J Clark, Inglis, that RU fella whose name I can't even remember and several others.'"
Absolutely spot on. This idea that the cub are suddenly skint and that sacking Price a year early would cost our finances severely is a nonsense. We signed Greg Inglis in the middle of the pandemic. |
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| Quote Briers'Boot="Briers'Boot"Imagine being on standby and being required to play.. then winning the big prize... would that feel right?'"
No, absolutely not. We don't deserve a second chance after last week. |
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The big problem with running Price's contract to the (more than likely bitter) end is that he is essentially a dead man walking. Putting off the inevitable until this time next year unless we are putting some serious plans in place NOW wouldn't seem like a good strategy for improving performance or player recruitment.
Most satisfying performance this year for me was the kids V Salford where we played as a team and with heart....if only that mantle was picked up instead tossed off by Price's first choice it might have bought him some time on the basis that we were heading in some positive direction
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