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Quote: just_browny "I haven't studied this in detail but have a feeling Philbin has always been at his best in games against Saints.'"


I was about to say the same, the man just loves terrorising Saints!

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I didn't even realise Makinson was playing today! We did so well keeping g0be Welsby quiet too. Just didn't give them a sniff. Did they even test our line in the second half?

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As for wingers dessie is my all time favourite but Matty Ashton is certainly up there..top try in the corner

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Quote: matt_wire "I didn't even realise Makinson was playing today! We did so well keeping g0be Welsby quiet too. Just didn't give them a sniff. Did they even test our line in the second half?'"


Did anybody see Makinson when Hurrell scored? Looks like someone had told him his dog died. Something not right there. Expect him to be playing somewhere else next year.

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There was a young lad called RobRiches
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Well, we posed this tie as a true test of where we were, especially considering the injuries to our big forwards.

Presumably we now have the answer.

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Quote: Douglas Black "Monaghan
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Ashton

are the top 3 with Riley next.

Kevin Penny still the most exciting for those first few months though.'"


This isn't even a debate. Ashton is better than Hicks was

Ashton is a lot faster
Ashton makes more yards running it in.
Hicks was better in the air
Hicks was possibly marginally better in defence.
Ashton's finishing is better.

Overall, I can't see why people still go on about Hicks. How many would Hicks score over the last few years for us playing outside the centres that Ashton has had to. T King and Ratchford versus M King and Bridge. This isn't even taking into account how dominant our pack was while Hicks was here. So we we got downfield a lot easier and created more opportunities for our outside backs as a result.

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I'm just about to watch the game back view at the game was that we were a better team from 1 to 17.

Whilst not getting carried away,we did a big job on saints today, we were told we hadn't played anyone yet, and I thought we were treated very harshly over the 2 catalans defeats.

You cant say saints had an off day today, we rinsed them out wide.

Ironically you could say that was a daryl powell-esque attacking display out wide

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Lots to love about that display but for now I will highlight one big and one “small” points.
The biggie was to pass to second receiver from dummy half which nullified the Saints “speed” off the mark. The second was the move between Powell and Harrison for the try. I still can’t work out what they did!
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Can't wait to watch this back but what a game.

The moments that stick for me how slick the movement between Williams, Dufty and Hayes, really clicked in attack.

Dufty jumping for ball (yes he missed one) but really took away St Helens one dimensional Dodd kicking attack,

Fitzgibbon loving his work loving the devil in him and the lines he runs.

Jimmy Harrison immense.

George Williams ran the show, game management was great drop goal to go in ahead was a great move.

Thought Saints try was offside but let them have that.

1-17 all did their jobs and loving the next man up mentality

Also I've never seen a Saints side full of so many basic errors, kicks out of the full, Lomax dead ball, but we pressured them and made them make the mistakes.

We need to not underestimate Huddersfield who did a number on Catalans but I'm sure Sam will get them in the right frame of mind.

Buzzing.

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That williams tackle on Dodd was a whomp,

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "That williams tackle on Dodd was a whomp,'"


Dodd had to play injured cause he was embarassed he got took down that way lol.

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Question for the geeks…Ashton “no try” given as a knock on but even if it hit his hand it then went to his lower leg so isn’t that a kick?

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Quote: Captain Hook "Question for the geeks…Ashton “no try” given as a knock on but even if it hit his hand it then went to his lower leg so isn’t that a kick?'"


A very 'pernickety' no try, had it gone up as 'try' I don't think it was clear enough to deny. He even visibly seemed to pull his right hand away from his leg and the ball, whether thats because he sensed he'd touched it who knows. He said in his interview he thought he did. But it was as either/or as that weird one we had chalked off in the 2019 final where fatty Lineham brushed against Goodwin. Marginal stuff.

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Congratulations from a Leeds fan.
Only managed to watch the second half and have commented on our board that you can already see the Burgess effect making a depleted pack look very good with fire in their bellies.
Ashton has to be the best all round winger in SL at the moment and Williams controlling the game once again.
I was gutted when we missed out on Fitzgibbon as he was just the player we needed.
Have to say I don`t rate Dodd and even Welsby and Lomax looked very ordinary as you put them both under pressure.

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