now THAT was embarrassing.... I just don't take any notice anymore.

Sometimes i go on the wigan forum to browse a few posts that might be of interest and everytime i see him post he is talking about warrington.

Loads of RL fans everywhere are fans of RL as a whole. I wouldn't say that is just a trait of Wigan fans, you just know more Wigan fans to judge that off.

I'm from Manchester and always been a huge RL fan (as well as City seasoncard holder for many years) but i didn't 'support' any RL club in my youth, there isn't a Manchester team (why i'll never know!) [Salford really isolate themselves from being Mancunian]. It wasn't until i went to do my degree in Warrington and did my work placement at the Wire and got quite involved in them being my team (i lived in Warrington from 2000-2003) that i had a club. Now i'm back in Trafford but i'm still a Wire fan and still a huge RL fan (i'm always banging the RL drum in a city that really doesn't take to RL [f?ck knows why?!?!]). Boxing and MMA are probably more widely particiapated than RL in Mcr.

But i'm sure there are a huge proportion of RL fans of all clubs who have a big interest in RL from all over the globe. I watch a lot of the NRL. It's a fantastic level of competition. It makes our game over here seem like Championship 1 to Super League. Yes, Souths are a hugely historical club and have won many titles but they won the majority of them were in joke times of competiton. They still won them of course, Balmain didn't win as many as Souths but Wests are still considered a big club so Souths are obviously too. Wire didn't have that green/red away kit last season by coincidence!

i think he could be a secret warrington fan in denial.

Probably because they're not Mancunian (although oddly quite a lot of them support either City or United, go figure).

You're right, they don't consider themselves Mancunian. Although their city centre is Manchester city centre and we are all the same people, but hey?! That's what they think so i wont go against it. But what gets my goat is that Salford City Reds have mentioned in a few aspects of their both SL applications (potential support and potential player pool) "the Manchester connurbation". Now i work in a Wythenshawe (in Mcr) school and have not seen or heard from Salford City Reds once; i live in Trafford and have never seen any local advertising or outreach for Salford City Reds once; i spent a lot of time in Mcr city centre and you wouldn't know Salford City Reds existed...

Anyway that's completely off topic, sorry!

Well not strictly true, they don't have a city centre as such (Salford precinct is a desolate horrible place), but that doesn't make Manchester "their city centre", it's just the nearest 'traditional' city centre to them.

They have indeed often said that 'Manchester' is a bit catchment area for them, and indeed it is, but they need to actually go out and do some work to take advantage of it for it to mean anything.

Are you serious?

Swinton as famous and historic a club in Britain as Souths are in Oz? Eh?

To compare their fame is laughable - has anyone outside RL circles even heard of Swinton?

As for history, well Swinton are an old club (not founder members of the RL though) and they have won titles but even on the history they can't compare with Souths pre 1970 and they certainly can't in the last 40 years, where although Souths haven't been successful they have been a top flight side for almost all that period unlike Swinton.

Wonder what inspired his 'media blackout' this week. Are the cracks getting bigger?

Well, somebody might be interested next season, if cracks are getting bigger.

oi, leave Don Revie out of it!

"As far as I'm concerned you can throw all those medals you've won in the bin, because you won them all by cheating"

...and that was his most inspiring speach during his 44 days. Leeds were 'orrible though.