For me, 1 game is too long. I have seen nothing that makes me think some big bodies in the pack will turn this around.....go now, another more of this and we'll be looking at crowds of 5-6000 next year, people will not waste their money on this rubbish.

If after 6 games we are where we are now he's gotta go..but the question is who takes his place..

They should be scouting now. Coaches don’t count on the salary cap and that is where we should be shoving all this money. They’ve attempted it this time but backed a horse that is already through the doors of the glue factory.

6 games is fair I would say. But I think in those 6 games we must be seeing clear signs that the mentality is fixed. 4 good wins at least, with a couple of defeats where we have competed strongly. Not many of our players will be tied up in the World Cup I would think, so let’s get them all back early working hard to hit the season running. I know it’s not always a good thing to peak early, but I think we need it for confidence going forward.

The 3 season plan

Season 1- complete clear out and survive
Season 2- top 6
Season 3- winners

Season 1 objective successfully achieved, on to Season 2

Two more seasons

3 games only no messing about, don’t care if we play Saints Wigan whoever those first 3, we need to show intent from the go, fail bday in those games then he has to go so we bed a new coach in asap.

PS Saints have lot 4 games all year so if we lost our first 3 we would be massively on the backfoot even then

Gazwire says 5 years and anyone who disagrees is having a personal attack on him!

There have been improvements, not an awful lot; that could be attributed to the player turnround. But these collapses are a big concern and are a bit of a head scratcher at this stage. I would have expected us/liked us to have pressed on in that second half with some confidence given the 12 point cushion. I'm hoping that next season with a leader on the pitch such as Mcguire, that these occurrences won't happen. There are no leaders in our side with enough confidence to give the players a rollicking/gee up, and we desperately need that.

Someone else has mentioned the need for a proper directional scrum half - I think this would help too - though I'm not entirely sure who's available/suitable.

I'm still backing Powell but it's not easy after another collapse last night. There is a good coach in there, but we don't seem to be seeing much of it yet.

These dead rubber games were the litmus test - can Powell motivate players that HE has brought to the club to perform in matches where nothing other than pride is at stake?

You have your answer.

Doesn’t even make it to 2023 in my opinion.

This shouldn't even be a thread, he should be gone by now.

I'd say as an estimate not getting rid of Powell and appointing a new coach before next season will cost the club 2,000 season tickets for 2023

It really cannot be more than a few games. Bar the odd flash, EVERYTHING about this season has been truly awful. The dire rugby, the terrible defence, the frequent collapses from (often) winning positions. It's been a nightmare, and even thinking about the rugby we've been playing in attack makes me vomit.

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