Speaking of which, what happened to the bloke who always used to post those WG interviews on here?

How many GFs did he deliver and could he not have done better with the side that he had?

The only reason people say Monaghan is because they liked him as a player, but he wouldn't be coming back as a player he would be coming back as a rookie coach who hasn't had his first head coaching job to get his mistakes out of his system. Is Warrington the place for a rookie to learn from his mistakes...? It would be fine if we were a small club with modest ambitions but we are a club that has been near the top for the past few seasons so we need to win the Grand Final - not have more "near misses" or excuses like last season - we need a coach that can deliver the trophy at Old Trafford. Otherwise, we won't have improved on Tony Smith.

Now sure he might do "OK", like Keiron Cunningham is doing "OK" at Saints. Two seasons, two playoff appearances is pretty decent going for a rookie coach and he will get better the more time he has but look over at the Saints board at the calls for KC out. And KC is much more of a long standing Saints legend than Monaghan is with us.

The fans would get behind Monaghan - sure for a few weeks, but how long before the forum experts on here started pointing out his flaws - playing players in the wrong position, selection mistakes, being too negative, being too positive, he would soon be getting dissected on here and just doing what Cunningham has done at Saints and making the playoffs would be regarded as just a poor man's version of Tony Smith.

Good post. If anyone is going to make Warrington their rookie club, surely it would be Briers, rather than Monas. But just like how Giggs was overlooked for Mourino, will he have what it takes to step up. Based on Briers' coaching career, when might he be ready?

Briers could go to a club like Wakefield or Salford and then if he took them to be a club pushing the top sides like Powell has done with Cas he would be well set to come back to us and help us win the Grand Final.

Coaching Warrington should be something you earn, when you have proved you have what it takes to be a winner, not just a jobs for the boys culture, where players from Tony Smith's era of "nearly men" go on to replace him as coach, but end up achieving less than he did and leave the fans even more disillusioned.

some great posts on here ....
but the following were former assistant coaches and very much untried head coaches
Michael Mcguire:
he won the League leaders shield the grand final and the challenge cup in his first two years as a head coach. ..Wigan hadn't troubled those trophies much in the previous TEN years....

Shaun Wane:
a former assistant to an untried head coach, how we laughed at how quickly this idiot would fail, he won even more and added the world club champions to the list and his team spanked our teams backsides without breaking sweat last week...

Lee Radford:
untried head coach and former assistant won the Challenge cup and manager of the year with Hull FC

Paul Anderson:
untried head coach and former assistant won the League leaders shield and manager of the year with Huddersfield.

then there's the semi tried and tested head coaches:
Brian Mcdermott:
had what 4 or 5 years at Harlequins ....never reaching the play offs ...hows that for tried and .... yet he filled his boots with trophies at Leeds
Trent Robinson famously coached Toulouse to nothing at all... got manager of the year at Catalan and had the gall to go to the NRL and win an NRL grand final at the first stab....

however NRL super coaches Tim Sheens and Geoff Toovey are arsing about in the lower leagues, Rick Stone is having a good go at trying to get there and Brian Smith second time around version flirted with relegation and couldnt head home quick enough.

I'm failing to see any evidence which supports the notion of staying away from Assistant coaches they are guaranteed to win you nothing...

When we signed Anthony England from Featherstone people were using similar arguments - Chris Hill came from the lower leagues and how good was he? That didn't mean England was Chris Hill.

Getting an assistant coach doesn't mean you are guaranteed to win nothing but it is a bigger gamble.

If we appoint an assistant coach, the only reason fans would accept them at first is if they played for us and were a popular player, eg Michael Monaghan or Brett Hodgson. I wonder what the reaction would be on here if we brought in an assistant coach from another club like Chris Thorman, Sean Long or Andy Last, as head coach to replace Smith? They will all be complaining that its the cheap option, where's our ambition and so on.

IMO if we are going to bring in an assistant coach the best option is Willie Poching who has been an assistant for a while now, he's part of the NZ set up, and he was at Warrington during our best era. Hard to argue for any other assistant coach above Poching.

Here's my take on our season so far. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... stock.html

Here's my take on our season so far. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... stock.html

thats because there is none.

So if Agar gets promoted we shouldn't write him off too quickly then.

As flying biscuit notes above, Brian McDermott hadn't exactly ripped up trees at Harlequins any more than Agar did at Hull and Wakey, and in the right club he started delivering Grand Finals.

Agar is part of our current problem of poor defence and poor attacking rugby, he may also have input contributing to poor team selection ,and may even be offered views to assist in the current poor recruitment.Plus he took a demotion from head coach role to assistant hardly a great career move.
I'm no HR executive but those are just a few pointers that would persuade me to look for an alternative candidate.

the reason I would fancy Michael Monaghan as coach is not because he was a popular player ...not for me anyway.
In his early years as Scrum half I loathed him.. he was a poor scrum half he was also quite a miserable player he often chastised other players (younger ones) and would then make an error of his own and would think putting a hand in the air made up for it...

So this is not me selecting my favorite former player ...if it was, I'd want Brett Hodgson.. but Hodgson doesn't strike me as a hard task master where as Monas does.
plus he publicly mentioned how bad our defence was when he first came here and how it would take a long time to rectify the bad habits we had.And we did that with him as a particular stand out in defence as well as attack (once in his correct role)

of course he could end up falling on his backside and could end up being all surly in interviews like James lowes...

but I'll wait till after the result of the Leigh game with the return of Hill. if we look like world beaters then fair enough, if not then Smith must go along with Agar... we will have nothing to lose.

How can the last post be Thursday 16th March at 12-03 am when it is only 23-21 on wed 15th March????

The time zone for the server is +1 Hour. It's 12:32am GMT as I post this.

Quote: the flying biscuit "he publicly mentioned how bad our defence was when he first came here and how it would take a long time to rectify the bad habits we had.And we did that with him as a particular stand out in defence as well as attack (once in his correct role) '" I remember that article and thought it was brave of him to come out with the truth. Whilst the back story was all "we are going places, and we are not far off" he called it exactly - we stank in defence. These were the Cullen days of conceding on average 25-30+ points per game which never improved until we got Lowes in, then Smith. Monaghan saw the problems with Cullen a year before he left. www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... _Monaghan/ www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... _problems/ I would not be distraught if he was appointed if Smith falls on his sword, as he won't be sacked.

Quote: the flying biscuit "he publicly mentioned how bad our defence was when he first came here and how it would take a long time to rectify the bad habits we had.And we did that with him as a particular stand out in defence as well as attack (once in his correct role) '" I remember that article and thought it was brave of him to come out with the truth. Whilst the back story was all "we are going places, and we are not far off" he called it exactly - we stank in defence. These were the Cullen days of conceding on average 25-30+ points per game which never improved until we got Lowes in, then Smith. Monaghan saw the problems with Cullen a year before he left. www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... _Monaghan/ www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... _problems/ I would not be distraught if he was appointed if Smith falls on his sword, as he won't be sacked.