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| As others have mentioned, it was the way that he left that leaves Wire fans with a bitter taste over Andy Gregory.
The closest I can come to a tribute is that he was the difference between Wigan becoming the great side of the late 80's, instead of Wire.
At the time of his exit, Wire were simply crushing all before them, including a beating of Wigan at Wilderspool - From his exit onwards, the pendulum steadily swung and what we had to endure was the saddest of false dawns I've witnessed in all my time following Wire.
From his brief spell with us, he provided some of the best rugby league I've ever seen, but he also left us with the overwhelming feeling of 'what if???......'
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| Quote: rubber duckie "A talented player who shone at two huge British clubs but had only one chance during his playing career to turn a struggling club, Warrington into a great club.
Alas that opportunity was dismissed as he openly admitted he used Warrington as little more than a stepping stone to get to play at Wigan.
So you will forgive me for not speaking too kindly, which is too bad as the memory of the crushing defeat we gave to Leeds is one I wont forget.'"
Excellent post. I think most Wire fans with long memories will agree with this.
Duckie, you are really starting to get me worried. I actually agree with some of your posts, this one especially.
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| Thanks for the feedback guys, was before my time so couldn't have much of a say on it
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| So basically make sure you write in this book that Warrington fans are a load of bitter whingers who couldn't handle that a player who had been a great player for us signed for another club that was more ambitious than we were at the time and could offer him the chance to take his career onwards and upwards whereas we couldn't.
I'm sure Andy Gregory will be able to get over some hate from Wire fans I doubt there are many nights when he has regretted winning all those medals with Wigan and thought "if only I'd stayed at Warrington".
Ask some Warrington fans what they think of their great heroes Ben Westwood (walked out on his home club in the middle of a relegation battle to join a relegation rival) and Chris Hill (treated Leigh as a stepping stone just to get in to Super League) and see what character judgements they make on those two. No doubt fantastic upright citizens both!
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "So basically make sure you write in this book that Warrington fans are a load of bitter whingers who couldn't handle that a player who had been a great player for us signed for another club that was more ambitious than we were at the time and could offer him the chance to take his career onwards and upwards whereas we couldn't.
I'm sure Andy Gregory will be able to get over some hate from Wire fans I doubt there are many nights when he has regretted winning all those medals with Wigan and thought "if only I'd stayed at Warrington".
Ask some Warrington fans what they think of their great heroes Ben Westwood (walked out on his home club in the middle of a relegation battle to join a relegation rival) and Chris Hill (treated Leigh as a stepping stone just to get in to Super League) and see what character judgements they make on those two. No doubt fantastic upright citizens both!'"
It wasn't the matter of Gregory leaving . It was the way that he did it. He was in dispute with the club over a fine he refused to pay. It was all set up for Wigan to come along.
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| Not as good as John Woods, not fit to breathe the same air as Sir Mike Gregory.
and fat.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "Not as good as John Woods, not fit to breathe the same air as Sir Mike Gregory.
and fat.'"
A bit long to put on his gravestone, but I am sure something could be worked out.
All players have to look to their own welfare as it's a short, unpredictable career, with a good chance that it can end prematurely. But Gregory seemed to cross the line from protecting his interests, into the territory of self-serving and I think many fans were left with a feeling of betrayal. It's a bit like getting the plumber round to replace your boiler, then finding he has charged you top whack but fitted a second hand Polish job that he bought from the scrap yard.
Good luck to you Andy, but don't come back round here expecting stories of fond memories. You sold your goodwill a long time ago.
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| I don't think hate is the right word Sally C.
I would say disappointed, disappointed with him.
Little do people know that one time he told the club he wasn't fit to play...he was, but skipped the game.
He was invited to play golf that day and he did.
A guy that was at that golf match with him told me that Gregory had told him.
It was many years ago, so long ago I have no recollection who it was any more, but I remember he also had his interest in business not rugby.
You could ask him about it and see if he wants to put that in his book!
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| Great player.......not the best I've seen in the primrose and blue, a bit of a cock by all accounts. But in his spells at Widnes Warrington and Wigan he was world class. no doubt about it.
and those that hold some grudge over his departure from Warrington should be satisfied that he was shafted by Wigan in the end. Which meant instead of retiring a Wigan Legend he drifted slowly out of the game over a four year period by going to Leeds and then Salford and being a a shadow of his former self.
was he the difference between us being the dominant team of the late 80's early 90's or Wigan.....? no ...in the Maine road semi John woods was the best half back on the park by a country mile....But Wigan had Ellery Hanley....
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "Great player.......not the best I've seen in the primrose and blue, a bit of a cock by all accounts. But in his spells at Widnes Warrington and Wigan he was world class. no doubt about it.
and those that hold some grudge over his departure from Warrington should be satisfied that he was shafted by Wigan in the end. Which meant instead of retiring a Wigan Legend he drifted slowly out of the game over a four year period by going to Leeds and then Salford and being a a shadow of his former self.
was he the difference between us being the dominant team of the late 80's early 90's or Wigan.....? no ...in the Maine road semi John woods was the best half back on the park by a country mile....But Wigan had Ellery Hanley....'"
.......and someone who could drop a goal from 60 yards.
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| Wasn't that Joe Lydon ?
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| Seen him in the Rodney a few times, not many people speaking to him either.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "
The closest I can come to a tribute is that he was the difference between Wigan becoming the great side of the late 80's, instead of Wire.
At the time of his exit, Wire were simply crushing all before them, including a beating of Wigan at Wilderspool - From his exit onwards, the pendulum steadily swung and what we had to endure was the saddest of false dawns I've witnessed in all my time following Wire.
From his brief spell with us, he provided some of the best rugby league I've ever seen, but he also left us with the overwhelming feeling of 'what if???......''"
He joined us in 1984/85, we finished 11th that season, Wigan finished 3rd.
In 1985/86 we finished 4th, Wigan finished 2nd.
So I'm not sure what pendulum swung because they were ahead of us anyway.
Probably memories have got rose-tinted because probably our best run of the 1980s was the back end of 1986, just before he left, after we lost our first two games of the season (what's new) we won 14 in a row which included the 54-16 at Leeds and the win at Central Park on New Year's Day.
But even then Wigan were still above us, the only team they'd lost to was us, they'd won all the rest.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "He joined us in 1984/85, we finished 11th that season, Wigan finished 3rd.
In 1985/86 we finished 4th, Wigan finished 2nd.
So I'm not sure what pendulum swung because they were ahead of us anyway.
Probably memories have got rose-tinted because probably our best run of the 1980s was the back end of 1986, just before he left, after we lost our first two games of the season (what's new) we won 14 in a row which included the 54-16 at Leeds and the win at Central Park on New Year's Day.
But even then Wigan were still above us, the only team they'd lost to was us, they'd won all the rest.'" Oh yes that dismantling of Leeds was 1 of the best displays by a Warrington team i've ever seen and still ranks as up there with the best.Peter Fox got the sack after that game if i'm not mistaken.Great memories.
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