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On reflection, we are exactly where I thought we would be. Smith just needs to iron out the inconsistency kinks. Only 3rd of the way through mind.

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The slump in enthusiasm from the players for the Catalans, Huddersfield and first 20 of the Crusaders game was really disturbing. It seems like some of them just can't get up for these games and that's worrying. Also concerning is how poor we are without Monners playing at hooker; Higham looked better than Clarke so that's probably just form but we need to wrap Monners in cotton wool for later in the season. All in all not a bad start to the season but there's lots of room for improvement.

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For me we are behind where I was expecting us to be.

At this point in the season I was fully expecting us to be 1st or 2nd with a clear gap to our chasers.
Hudds are doing far far better than I expected and Saints are the club that I thought we would be vying with for top or 2nd.
Wigan are where I was expecting and Leeds are way behind what I thought they would do.
The other club who I thought would be higher up the table are the Bulls, I was thinking they would be 5th or 6th by now.

A couple of games don't normally matter in the context of a long season, but this coming weekends fixtures against Salford and Hull will be CRUCIAL to where we finish in September. If we win both games we are back in the hunt and will be in 2nd spot or possibly 1st. Lose one or more and we will finish no higher than 3rd. This weekend is not just about the four points on offer, it will determine how we as a team will perceive ourselves particularly going into the must win games.

This weekend is about more than the four points on offer, it could define our chances of getting to Old Trafford.

At the start of this season I saw Saints as our main contenders and I still do
Their next four fixtures will be key to their season............
Wigan v St Helens
St Helens v Castleford
Hull v St Helens
Huddersfield v St Helens

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Possibly getting carried away there fats. Think like Tony; our position in the table doesn't matter, it's performance that counts. Our performances against Catalans and Hudd were awful, winning would have only papered over the cracks that those performances won. The best thing about this Fridays game was that our performance improved over the 80. I won't be worried if we come out with a 2 point win against Salford or Hull if our performance is there. Obviously I'll be irked if we lose either game but I think if we're performing neither of those teams will touch us.

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I wish I was getting carried away, the old Wire would have won one of the two Easter games and then gone on to oblivion in the play offs.

To be serious contenders for O/T we have got to win against teams like Salford and Hull, because that's what the Leeds and Saints teams have doing year after year and then on the platform of beating these teams they get to O/T.

If by next Tuesday we have four more points in the bag then O/T wil be back in our sights. I am not a SL historian but the Bulls are they only team to have reached Old Trafford from third or below.

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Three abject performances got rightly punished. We can't afford many more days like those otherwise we can kiss goodbye to a top 3 finish. If we can grab wins in both Easter games I might feel a little more confident but overall I'm a bit disappointed with our form. Great performances against Pies, Saints and Leeds have been undone by the 3 defeats.

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WOLFS have prooved best in SL alreddy. Big kwesjun is can we beet Huds ????????

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This is pure Jeremy Beadle, isn't it icon_wink.gif

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "This is pure Jeremy Beadle, isn't it

I can't believe these folk get to register so many posts. A thread about an ex -player is locked within seconds, but trolls and knobs get to run the asylum.

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Y ??????

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This time last year weren't we something like 1st best defence and second highest attack. The form book means sod-all at the moment. We've won some games that fans expected us to lose, we've lost some that we expected to win. All the other teams are the same.....(teams like Hudds and Cas) have just had more unexpected victories at the moment.

Top 4 at Easter, Top 3 (with a gap) by July, Top 2 by September....that will do me.

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The one thing you have to respect in this competition is the toughness of other teams. You simply can't expect a win. I'm enjoying Rugby more than ever this season, and there are exciting times ahead.

I think to have won 7 and lost 3 at this stage, especially after the nightmare start we had in Cardiff, is pretty impressive. The only game where I wasn't impressed with our attitude was against Catalans a couple of weeks back. And on both occasions against Huddersfield, they just raised their performance to a level where you have to congratulate your opposition on the night - even if your team could have been smarter in certain departments. I think the reverse fixture at HJ will see us potentially put in our most accomplished performance of this season as the players will have that particular game in their sight now.

It's all looking positive and with King recovered and an absolute full bill of health in general, we approach the half way stage in much better position than most.

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Quote: Iggle Piggle "Y ??????'"


Everyone thinks you either a complete nob or a wind up merchant.

Take your pick but I suspect it's a bit of both.

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Im happy with where we are so far. Biggest concern is what happens when we play a decent team without Briers... Huddersfield ruined us, so i hope he can stay fit throughout.

Against a lower team (no offence) we can dominate in other areas, but when were matched almost man for man,we lack direction and we struggle with Briers. Thats my only concern.

In Smith I Trust though...

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The first 10 games have been a bit strange for me, OK we blew away Crusaders and Quins but there are a couple of games that could have gone either way. The performance against Saints away was very good but I think we played them at the right time, We play that game now and it might be a different story. The Hull KR game was also not the best and could have gone either way. We have shown a determination I have not seen before and even in the Catalan game they carried on to the hooter.
I agree with other posters in that with the injuries sustained in the first game the situation could have been a lot worse.

Two things that I am really pleased about is the fact that younger, less established players have been given the opportunity and then taken it. The second thing is I feel like I have been entertained in every game (Including the ones we lost) with some great skill on show in attack and some real determination in defence.

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