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Signed for Salford.

Good luck to him

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Yeah good luck, he looked a really good second row proposition to me and deputised really well for Ben currie when he was injured. A shame it didn't work out but I hope he goes well for Salford.

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Agreed.
A natural RL player.
Good signing - known to Marshall

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In the week Johnson left, I find it vaguely dispiriting frankly.

Is it [ireally[/i the case that these youngsters, and in the case of Livett and Johnson no-one can deny their ability, have simply lost their way, or don't apply themselves, or don't train well and fall from grace or is something rotten in the club?

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Good luck to him, same goes for Johnson.

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To buy a player of Johnson's age is pretty unheard of, to the get rid on the cheap, arguably before you've seen him reach his peak years is baffling. Another poor investment, who on earth does our scouting?

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "In the week Johnson left, I find it vaguely dispiriting frankly.

Is it [ireally[/i the case that these youngsters, and in the case of Livett and Johnson no-one can deny their ability, have simply lost their way, or don't apply themselves, or don't train well and fall from grace or is something rotten in the club?'"


Very good questions. Certainly with Livett, when he first burst onto the scene I thought he looked a natural and a great prospect. His early performances showed great promise and his goal kicking wasn't half bad either. One thing that did intrigue me was having been reunited with TS why he didn't stay at KR. Might of course be down to pure economics or the travelling if applicable or whatever. I can't answer your question but like yourself would be very interested if anybody did know the answer.

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I've said my thoughts on livett before I've never got the hype, I dont think he'll be a big miss

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "I've said my thoughts on livett before I've never got the hype, I dont think he'll be a big miss'"


But he was considered good enough to be given a new contract, and then exiled.
I'm not denying his form dipped after the contract extension and around the time of the Catalans CC defeat but he isn't unique in that regard.

My question remains, why do so many of our promising youngsters fall by the wayside - are they [iall[/i overhyped?

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "But he was considered good enough to be given a new contract, and then exiled.
I'm not denying his form dipped after the contract extension and around the time of the Catalans CC defeat but he isn't unique in that regard.

My question remains, why do so many of our promising youngsters fall by the wayside - are they [iall[/i overhyped?'"



If he was on a cheap first team contract, then its worth giving him that, id doubt he was on megabucks as I've said, personally I've never seen the hype, reading between the lines he may have landed on price's list which is impossible to get off.

But, again, I've never seen anything thats made me go, 'wow hes got great X skills'

I think its telling that the video that Salford have put together announcing his arrival is some bland hit ups at kr, none of his try scoring matches for us (3 years ago)

Theres a few people genuinely skriking over this, its bizarre

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That game against Leeds he was fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HGhBV-6ZQ

Had some promising spells at the club then Price snubbed him for whatever reason.

Think we would have been great developing as a creative back row.

Not to be. Hope he has a great career.
That game against Leeds he was fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HGhBV-6ZQ

Had some promising spells at the club then Price snubbed him for whatever reason.

Think we would have been great developing as a creative back row.

Not to be. Hope he has a great career.


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Another stupid error to let one of our own go. I cannot think of a better player to have on the bench than Harvey.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "In the week Johnson left, I find it vaguely dispiriting frankly.

Is it [ireally[/i the case that these youngsters, and in the case of Livett and Johnson no-one can deny their ability, have simply lost their way, or don't apply themselves, or don't train well and fall from grace or is something rotten in the club?'"

Add that ginger haired lad from about a decade ago, to the list (was his name Mitchell....I'm getting old). Another promising youngster to fall off the radar.

Something really is amiss with these [ipromising[/i back row youngsters. They get the hype when they start, so is it

a) poor coaching
b) poor application by the player
c) falling for said hype, and the player not being [iall that[/i

Wigan and Saints youngsters seem to prosper, and get lots of opportunities. We go big on over hyped Australians (the very bland Clark, and he gets a contract extension) , so the youngsters have to wait, or don't even get a chance.

Anyway. Good luck to the lad. I liked him, but, he's been around for a few years. Even someone as stubborn as Price would've given him a chance at sometime. Maybe he just wasn't good enough

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When he first came into the first team I thought he looked like a decent ball player, he had his opportunities whilst Ben Currie was sidelined.
I remember a game at the HJ (I can't remember who it was against) where the opposition scored a couple of tries down our left edge in quick succession. Livett was taken off shortly after but when he came off he strangely took his shirt off as if to show the North stand that his shoulder was heavily strapped up and that was the reason that the opposition managed to get past him.
It was a strange piece of theatre and I remember thinking that was not going to go down too well. I can't remember seeing him play a lot after that. That was probably the point that he made it onto Price's naughty list
Good luck to him. Hope he goes well at Salford

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