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| 'season 7, episode 15'
we are still waiting.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "'season 7, episode 15'
we are still waiting.'"
So true
Said Tony Hadley
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| Yep, club legend but not a good coach at all. Take Pricey with you on the way out please Lee.
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| Does any other club's fans blame the assistant coach?
We've done it with lowes, agar and now briers!
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| Quote: Moe syslak "Does any other club's fans blame the assistant coach?
We've done it with lowes, agar and now briers!'"
Without having any idea what input they have. Why Briers and not Henderson ( genuine question, not a suggestion).
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| Quote: Captain Hook "Without having any idea what input they have. Why Briers and not Henderson ( genuine question, not a suggestion).'"
How long has Briers been there? It’s like he’s there because of his status rather than on merit. Almost like Duncan Ferguson at Everton. He still be there in the year 2068.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "Does any other club's fans blame the assistant coach?
We've done it with lowes, agar and now briers!'"
No definitely not! Head coach dictates tactics and style.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "How long has Briers been there? It’s like he’s there because of his status rather than on merit. Almost like Duncan Ferguson at Everton. He still be there in the year 2068.'"
To be fair to Ferguson, at least he appears to do a job, considering England's latest superstar has basically been hand reared by him over the last year or so.
Maybe Briers could do similar with one of our youngsters?
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| The plan to replace Briers was sound, Richie Myler and Stefan Ratchford were brought in while Briers still had a few years to go, plus we had Gareth O'Brien coming up through the ranks.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The plan to replace Briers was sound, Richie Myler and Stefan Ratchford were brought in while Briers still had a few years to go, plus we had Gareth O'Brien coming up through the ranks.'"
We got to GF's and won the Challenge Cup with Briers. We also did it without him.
The problem has never been replacing Briers. It's been about changing the mentality within the whole club.
I might be being harsh, but perhaps Briers being there is just a constant reminder of failure for all to see, for people both inside and outside the club?
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| Maybe it's time we dropped the replacing Briers angle. Let's not forget, we never were anything special, with him. Yes, he had some dross and average to deal with, but he also had the Langer, Nikau, Nutley era, as well as Moran's spending power era. In his 16 year playing time, we just had the 3 CC's and a LLS.
He was a very important player, but in the same breath, neither a Messiah or a naughty boy
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Maybe it's time we dropped the replacing Briers angle. Let's not forget, we never were anything special, with him. Yes, he had some cross and average to deal with, but he also had the Langer, Nikau, Nutley era, as well as Moran's spending power era. In his 16 year playing time, we just had the 3 CC's and a LLS.
He was a very important player, but in the same breath, neither a Messiah or a naughty boy'"
it was a more a post out of frustration that its been 8 years now and we still haven't recruited/brought through a HB that could hold a candle to him.
Its certainly not for lack of trying.... i guess its a problem for RL in general, rather than just Warrington.... that kind of player seems to have gone from the game now.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "it was a more a post out of frustration that its been 8 years now and we still haven't recruited/brought through a HB that could hold a candle to him.
Its certainly not for lack of trying.... i guess its a problem for RL in general, rather than just Warrington.... that kind of player seems to have gone from the game now.'"
Does that tell us more about Briers than the players who followed? Don't think the perfect replacement was ever out there.
We've had all different kinds of half back since he retired, some of them very good players.
In terms of his coaching, who knows what goes on on the training pitch. I also don't believe that just because he was so good, means he can teach that to our young half backs. It doesn't work like that
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| Quote: Fletcher-end-red "Does that tell us more about Briers than the players who followed? Don't think the perfect replacement was ever out there.
We've had all different kinds of half back since he retired, some of them very good players.
In terms of his coaching, who knows what goes on on the training pitch. I also don't believe that just because he was so good, means he can teach that to our young half backs. It doesn't work like that'"
What was said for a few years afterwards, certainly in the case of ratch replacing hodgo, we were continuing to try and play a style, that we no longer had the playing staff to support.
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| Was Ratchford signed as a replacement for Hodgson.
The reason that I ask is that I remember Matty Russell being signed as a fullback well after Ratch arrived and then we signed Gidley who had been playing full back for Newcastle and gave him the No 1 shirt although from memory he only played a pre season friendly at No 1.
I thought we stumbled around signing players with no real long term plan.
It maybe that Ratch was signed as a full back but all the shuffling at 6/7 meant that Ratch had to move
At the start of this season I saw a programme and it showed a recruitment meeting at Castleford where they were looking to sign a pivot for next year. They had identified the need and looked in the NRL and SL as to who was available 12 months in advance. It sounds like that ended up being Evalds. It would be great to compare our recruitment process to what I saw at Cas especially with signing Latu and Burrell neither of which appeared well thought out.
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