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Wants out of dragons contract for return to super league, saints bound or should we go for him?

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Quote: OSWire1993 "Wants out of dragons contract for return to super league, saints bound or should we go for him?'"


Dragons releasing that statement will mean its nearly done and it makes little sense for Wire to sign Graham but a lot of sense for St Helens to sign him. Thompson replacement, final swansong for boyhood club etc. Well past his best but he’ll probably do well for a couple of seasons given the standard of SL is so far below the NRL and there are very few good props around.

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Quote: MPhil12 "Dragons releasing that statement will mean its nearly done and it makes little sense for Wire to sign Graham but a lot of sense for St Helens to sign him. Thompson replacement, final swansong for boyhood club etc. Well past his best but he’ll probably do well for a couple of seasons given the standard of SL is so far below the NRL and there are very few good props around.'"


There might not be now, but I'd imagine Wakefield are a little susceptible to a bid or two and they've got two brilliant forwards. Same with Cas, they'll hardly be rolling in dough, it'll probably cost them thousands just to cut the grass that's grown in their stands over the summer.

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Not seen much of Graham since he went to Oz. What is his discipline like ,ball handling etc like generally? Everything else we know he gives 100%.
Any improvement on discipline & ball retention would be a plus for us even for a 12 month contract.

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Only place I see him going is Saints.

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The timing says Saints.

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Quote: ninearches "Not seen much of Graham since he went to Oz. What is his discipline like ,ball handling etc like generally? Everything else we know he gives 100%.
Any improvement on discipline & ball retention would be a plus for us even for a 12 month contract.'"

Discipline not to bad. Had a lot of injury problems in recent years though. Nowhere near the player he once was.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Discipline not to bad. Had a lot of injury problems in recent years though. Nowhere near the player he once was.'"


He's apparently done 170 and 140 metres with the ball in games this season and is averaging 100m at loose. He used to regularly do 80 minutes or close, I'd imagine if he's doing 40 in Super League he should be okay, this season at least. He was never the most dynamic player, he didn't smash players left, right and centre it was the volume of effort that made him such a good player. He'd outwork the starting props, then outwork the subs. I'd imagine we'll have him come off after 20 minutes these days.

I do wonder if this move is dependent on De Bellin's court case. That's coming up soon isn't it?

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Quote: OSWire1993 "Wants out of dragons contract for return to super league, saints bound or should we go for him?'"

Turn the clock black 5 years+ ago and I’d say most definitely, and SJM tried too, more than once...apparently. Stay clear of signing props 33-35 years of age.
The peak age of a prop is around 27-29. They very quickly fade from 31.
Let’s Saints have him.

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Quote: Saddened! "He's apparently done 170 and 140 metres with the ball in games this season and is averaging 100m at loose. He used to regularly do 80 minutes or close, I'd imagine if he's doing 40 in Super League he should be okay, this season at least. He was never the most dynamic player, he didn't smash players left, right and centre it was the volume of effort that made him such a good player. He'd outwork the starting props, then outwork the subs. I'd imagine we'll have him come off after 20 minutes these days.

I do wonder if this move is dependent on De Bellin's court case. That's coming up soon isn't it?'"

Don’t get me wrong it’s a really good signing for Saints. He’s still a solid player. I’d have took him here for a season without a doubt. He’ll do a job for you guys. His leadership and winning mentality alone will be an asset.

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It would have been nice to see him back in Super League a season two ago but I agree, still a solid player and well worth a year's contract.

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He'd be a quality signing for any club, puts in good minutes, tackles like always and will take a drive in everytime he's asked. He developed good ball handling skills in the NRL and constantly switches his attack. Defenders don't know whether he'll take in a drive or pass the ball. Yeah he doesn't have the legs he used to but he's still a workhorse. Put LMS at prop and Graham at 13 and saints will be fine, I'd take him here for a year any day of the week, he'd put the majority of our forwards to shame. But if he is released he'll definately be going to saints icon_smile.gif I hope so as i'd love to see him in Super league one more time icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Saddened! "He's apparently done 170 and 140 metres with the ball in games this season and is averaging 100m at loose. He used to regularly do 80 minutes or close, I'd imagine if he's doing 40 in Super League he should be okay, this season at least. He was never the most dynamic player, he didn't smash players left, right and centre it was the volume of effort that made him such a good player. He'd outwork the starting props, then outwork the subs. I'd imagine we'll have him come off after 20 minutes these days.

I do wonder if this move is dependent on De Bellin's court case. That's coming up soon isn't it?'"


Trial hearing is back in court this Monday for De Belin. He was charged last July.

On Graham he is certainly worth a 1-2 year deal back in the ESL. A pound to a peppercorn he will be back at St Helens maybe in time to celebrate his favourite Premier League football team finally winning the title again!

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Quote: Freddie Miller. " A pound to a peppercorn he will be back at St Helens maybe in time to celebrate his favourite Premier League football team finally winning the title again!'"

He'd have a job, he's an Everton fan!

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Quote: Saddened! "There might not be now, but I'd imagine Wakefield are a little susceptible to a bid or two and they've got two brilliant forwards. Same with Cas, they'll hardly be rolling in dough, it'll probably cost them thousands just to cut the grass that's grown in their stands over the summer.'"

I'll be highly amused if he signs for Cas or Trinity, as unlikely as it may be. Enjoy the second coming.

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