I really don’t know why but that inexplicable ray of hope has started to flicker
...only 2 teams in it...we were favourites last year and blew it...they are only human (after all)...

It doesn't matter what your expectations are, as we'll all commiserate as one, or we'll party rather wildly as one.

Can only see a beating on Saturday. How bad a beating depends on the attitude of the players coach etc..if they cannot get motivated for Wembley then they should think of another career..I.ll be there with the thousands of others but another shambolic performance similar to Catalans Salford and Wigan and the club won't get another penny of my hard earned..

We do have a chance albeit fairly slim. But it's not zero.

Well my going in position for this game and indeed this week is were going to lose with only a 1% chance of a win.
I'm not excited in the least I'm afraid to say.
But what I DEMAND to see is my team play with passion and graft as if it were their last ever game.
THEN if we lose I'll know i could nor have asked for more from that 1 to 17 and they can all leave the field with their heads held high - rather than with witnessing that abject display last week.

I actually enjoyed the Saints match the week before that because we FOUGHT. The guys coming in CARED about the shirt. I knew we'd lose but what I wanted was a performance and at times we got that.

Rant over.

On the plus side I can’t see me being more deflated than after last year’s CC final.

Forget current form, it’s a 50/50 game if Wire play there best game of the season and Saints have an off day......you win.

As much as i don't like Warrington (in a rivalry and banter way of course) i will be sat there very much with a 'primrose and blue all the way' on Saturday. St Helens' fans attitude of already having it won would give them a right old kick on the spuds and then it's all systems Grand Final (which they have already won too)

Come on Warrington

This topic is for irrational hope only, so please depart from whence you came.

JM, that just doesn't make any sense. Its 70/30 in Saints favour.

I'd say based on the quality of the two sides Saints should win. The league table isn't lying. But it wasn't last season and the best side often doesn't win the trophies due to only needing to lose a solitary game to mess up 9 months of superiority.

The only thing that is certain is that the duck will claim to be a genius. He'll either say I told you so, told you we'd win. Or he'll say that you'll batter us when they're all fit and proclaim he's had a vision of a Grand Final win.

Saddened you disappoint me.
Usually you have some gravity of sense...
Let me ground you some....and all the the tyre kickers of my own team.

Turn the clock back to the point everyone was in unity about a 2 horse race and nothing but a fag paper between Saints and Wire...and the point ahead of the one game everyone wanted to see.

THAT is at least where a true Wire ability lies...not a 'form line' where parameters change with injury and suspension over 3 months.

70/30, carnage, walkover, 30 on them, thrash them...
Some of the stuff I've read. Utter bollox. These 2 teams will be switched on at their premium best...and the nearest to formline we had at that point was what I wrote in paragraph 2.

Anyone who thinks Saints only have to turn up...will find themselves falling a very high drop.

If we win, it will all be set up for cliched post-match interviews on the pitch:

Random Warrington player: "Nobody's give us a pruur, aport from those lads in that dressing room, it just shors the character an spirit what's in this side, and hopefully our season can kick off from here now and mek that Grand Final"

Holbrook: "No I wouldn't say we underestimated them, Warrington are a top class side, they've shown that over the last couple of years, very good on the big occasion. I think they just played better on the day, handled the collisions better, came at us with more intensity. I can't really fault the effort of our boys but Warrington's execution was just better".

I agree, Warrington are in terrible form but if we win it won't be an upset on the scale of Sheffield Eagles 1998. More on the scale of Hull 2005 or Catalans 2018.

I think if you played this game 10 times in parallel universes Warrington would win 2, possibly 3.

Agree with that SC