Sorry to be blunt but its what we are esp with what must go down as the worst half back pairing in donkey’s years.

Far from it. I thought it was a cracking final with both sides out on their feet at the end. Unfortunately one team has to lose and the rugby gods seem to insist on it being us.

We are bottlers 2 finals again and lost em both again...

I thought the game was pretty dull.
Stoppage after stoppage. It was like American grid iron.

It was pretty brutal so it's hardly surprising that there were stoppages. As usual some people will be looking for scapegoats but as far I'm concerned everyone gave 100% and you can't ask for more than that.

There were 3 backs and 2 forwards I cannot say eft everything on that pitch.
Not scapegoats just let down.

Worst Roberts > Tompson > Brown > BMM > Patton

tbf it wasn't a good final, best team won, but poor match, was hoping you guys would win as always enjoyed the banter with your fans,

I don't think the players bottled it, the halves and attacking structures have been mediocre all season.

The better team over the season won and this game won. Hopefully Austin is a big upgrade on that joke who hobbled off.

BMM has been a poor signing for you, but he's used wrong. He's no wide running second rower, far too easy to tackle out wide and he has zero abillity with the ball. Play him as an impact prop and get him to run hard and straight for 10 minutes twice a game and you'd have a more effective player. He's so unfit he looks distressed every time he gets the ball out wide.

Nothing to do with bottlers, all to do with just simply not being good enough.

We’ve done amazingly well this season and have surpassed expectations massively, but it’s time for Steve Price to be ruthless and get a half back partner for Blake Austin who isn’t Kevin Brown. Until he does, we’ll continue to fall short.

Agreed, as a Wigan fan (coming here in peace) your halves are awful. How Brown gets in the England team is beyond me. Hes been vastly over rated since he made his Wigan debut and scored 3 tries and Stevo went crazy about him. I personally never saw anything in him. Roberts had a storming game against us in the cup yet since then ive only ever seen him have shockers offering nothing. The biggest mystery for me though is why your coach had Thompson starting every game when by his own admission hes not good enough to keep next year?

Because given a long term injury to Ben currie he is the best we currently have available. He is being let go because it's a waste of cap space to have another second row.

It's not a coincidence, a few is unlucky, but 6 on the trot, 4 in the last 3 seasons alone is not by chance.

Warrington fail miserably to do the basics needed in the big finals. They don't have the mentality. They never did. In the CC beat a crap Huddersfield team and then easily beat a Leeds team twice who at the time had a hoodoo. The common factor was that the games were open and won early. But when it comes to the grind, set for set, taking chances, playing for field position Warrington have never had that in the big finals, and that's where titles are won.

Honestly next grand final Warrington play I'll know in the first 10 minutes if they have what it takes. Are they finishing the set properly, are their attacks organised? Are they restricting metres from the opposition coming out of their half?

It's simple, not easy, but simple.

I agree with the posts that we aren’t really good enough to be Grand Final winners at the moment. The effort and organisation is there, in defence at least, can’t argue with that. Full marks to Steve Price for the job he has done this season. I had us down for 6th this year and never thought we’d be close to a final so we have overachieved with what we’ve got.

We lack two things, game breakers and leaders, only through new signings can we put that right.

But good work Wire for 2018, I’ve enjoyed the year.

Next year eh... 2019 year of the Wolfs

Too simplistic to say that every time the team that loses is a bottler, but where we have been poor for a while, and were tonight, was in attacking creativity in the final 10-20 metres, and I don’t think that’s bottling. But the kicking game was bad and the clueless plays on the 5th tackle stood out. But the defence was actually OK for a Grand Final, and hopefully Austin will create a spark for next season, and not be a total nutter, as most creative players from the NRL coming to SL tend to be